Ban'd from TW again listen to the reason!

[Noah]

Is it illegal for a player to make a deal with another player to go get banned if a certain situation ends in a certain way, as in a bet?

Let's say that Norway and Sweden had a football match, and both me and Mantra-Slider bets a ban on our country to win. Norway wins (ofc), and Mantra goes off to spam racism/cheat. Should I then get a ban as well?

Staff will never aid someone in a ban duel (like banning, locking spec, or any other moderation), and that's about all we can do about it.

Banning both players in a ban duel would be stupid, because the winner could easily claim that he never intended to go through with it himself, and just wanted to see if the other player were dumb enough to go get banned. Staff can't just go in and assume a deal to exist in a certain illegal way, then assume that both players are serious about it, or that there is a deal at all.

I think everyone knows how bad loopholes are getting used, and that it leaves alot of mess with it. If we make rules that can't be 100% enforced, and can't be 100% consistent, then we're sure to create shit for someone to exploit.

[Troll King]

I think it's not so much the concept of a ban duel as it is about people going out of their ways to do something illegal to get banned. Everyday instances of doing something illegal is one thing, but doing it to with the intent of getting banned is flaunting the rules.

[Nethila]

why is this in twl session?
off to general it goes since its more or less about ban duel + eelam's whining

[Xog]

this is a pretty big thread for something's that totally stupid

[concealed]

Who Wants To Ban Duel?

[Barton]

I didn't ban u the FIRST time...

ps. i'm NOT female

[Ephemeral]

The issue obviously has to do with allowing or even ‘rewarding’ behaviors (ban dueling) that potentially leads to abuse of the rules system. Instituting a more narrow rule that only addresses a player who intentionally gets himself banned only puts the staff in the position of subjectively determining ‘intent’. And as we all know, determining ‘intent’ always opens the door to a huge amount of whining.

Other possible solutions? Take away pub chat, allow only squad chats and PM’s (perhaps restricted by arena)?

[Jason]

we should have real ban duels again

they're fun

you lose you're gone

[Emaho]

DO NOT FREE EELAM

[DJSlayer]

we should have real ban duels again

they're fun

you lose you're gone

Ban duel?

[IKM]

Did you know that it is not illegal to publicly solicit someone on your team to teamkill someone else? Even to solicit a teamkill of a staff member? Try it sometime


But the TKer will still get in trouble.

[J M Power]

Because they're not illegal. Where in the zone rules does it state they are?
They are however highly discouraged. Staff themselves have organised and participated in banduels. The agreement being that zone rules were not to be broken by the loser, and would instead remain logged out for the negotiated time. Such an agreement forged between two players cannot and will not be monitored by zone staff. I don't care what kind of zany terms you want to apply if you were to enter into such a competition, but the line is drawn against breaking existing zone rules to fulfill your end of the bargain. If you do, and staff are aware of your banduel, I'll make you wish you hadn't.

Lol... what a twat

?go outside

[soup]

Staff will never aid someone in a ban duel (like banning, locking spec, or any other moderation), and that's about all we can do about it.

hahaah you serious????????,

barton locked the arena

[Noah]

I was there myself soupero, I tried to enter, and it worked.

There were even another player going into the duel at a point.

We discussed what to do as the duel went along, and we decided not to do anything related to staff powers with it, just observe. I even tried to do a *lock to see if Barton had done it, but he didn't.

Take your shit elsewhere, I was there.

[Barton]

the arena was open... you just need to enter...