Distension Beta Suggestions/Bugfix thread

[Mjollnir]

I have no problems killing even the highest level spiders and wbs with my less than mediocre terrier. They all have almost no energy from storming the fr and aren't expecting to get shot by the terrier. The real issue is that if you are the terrier, you are not supposed to die. If you're fighting, you will eventually die and piss your team off. It isn't that the terrier is unbalanced, it's that the idea of the terrier is less a ship to fly around in and more of a portal for others to get into base.

Agreed. Some people want to do other things than the main purpose of the Terrier and I don't even know if they should be able to. It's just that some people have stopped playing the Terrier and we have had trouble getting even one terrier to play for the team at times. Are you saying the Terrier shouldn't be changed at all?

Now that I think about it some more, it is probably a good thing that it is hard for Terriers to fly around freely and kill people because that is the reason they keep dying and that is just annoying for the team. Any ideas how to make the Terr more interesting without making it unbalanced?

[dako]

Question: Is RP multiplier going up again soon? Its been stuck at like 3.8x for weeks now :P

[maddack]

You could try giving terrs shield randomly. Prize it like super for spider. Then they can go on offensive rush in a FR war. It would probably be too overpowered if it wasn't random.

If possible this should be accompanied with a LVZ on the terr, like making it orange, so people see it's invulnerable.

[DankNuggets]

i don't really know what would make the terr better, maybe bouncing bullets? it would give them more defensive fr kills

do any ships get bricks? maybe they could be prized to support ships

[Vergilius]

weasel will get it, soon

[roxxkatt]

today we had an awesome 2 hour round, with 40 ppl playing.

bot doesnt work as well with that many people, but still fared well.
however, the losing team got the flag with 0:08 left, and bot still continued and killed the game, as if they hadnt.

dist is looking good!

i cant possibly see anyone ever reaching lvl70 in a human lifetime...
even with 3x...

[Dack Falu]

Distension> 6: High-Impact Cannon (NOT INSTALLED) 12 AVAIL!
Distension> 8: Beam-Splitter (NOT INSTALLED) 19 AVAIL!

Upgrade 7 (the higher-powered bombing systems) isn't showing up in my armory screen.

[Fluffz]

i think !lagout is broken if you dont do !return first.

me: !lagout
bot: cannot lagout, trying to return you to your army automatically
me: !lagout
bot: not registered to lagout
me: !you must be kidding i losst all my participation
bot: sucks for u

true story

[Aquatiq]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that shark repels need to be reduced so something a little more normal. 4 maximum, and only get more via prizes. Maybe they could start with 3 at rank 0, just a thought, and have the 4th be a special acquisition like the terr's 2nd burst. Becuase it's becoming more and more apparent that giving shark all this special random shit like cloak, guns, thrust-bombing and a million repels to get people to play it is not the way to go. Dug, there has to be something you can do with the settings of the ship (give it more energy, let more sharks tank L2s easier, give it more profit sharing options, idk). It's just that all this special shit the shark has is obviously designed to attract people to play the ship, and common sense would tell you that once people -do- play the ship, it's overpowered. And it is. It's just 1 ship, it shouldn't be able to keep an entire team occupied by itself (which it can).

While I'm at it, I'll talk about other ships, and stuff they do/don't really need:

WB Bombs. These are completely useless as they are. Sorry, I know you said not to say things are useless, but on a ship where it can shoot 1-hit-kill bullets for less energy than this slow l1 bomb that jav, lev, and shark all come with by default (and lanc relatively early too), it's not needed. If you want to keep the bombing option on WB, start out with l2 bombs. Even those probably won't be used by me/dack/hfshadow that much but at the stage in the game where a WB can CARRY bombs, l1 isn't worth carrying in the first place. So if bombs are something you weigh when you consider how the wb's doing and if it needs anything else, please don't even factor their presence in, lol. I -MIGHT- use it if it were like a lanc bomb, used to dodge stuff when it throws you back quickly, just a thought.

Jav rockets - I can't even tell if the enemy javs have them. If they do, they need to be made more apparent/worthwile. Should be very quick acceleration, like the pub one, lasts about the same length, and goes a bit faster than top speed. Maybe these could be made more useful if jav top speed were reduced a bunch, and rockets were upgradeable to like 2 or 3 per death so rocket shots could be something they do more? I just think javs are relatively harmless right now, maybe that's intentional, but it's usually a miracle when one of them gets a bomb in the right place.

[meddi]

In defense of the shark: I am awesome.

Actually, 4 max repels would be enough. I also think start at 3 repels would be helpful. This way, when a team is sharkless, someone switching to a low rank shark will be very helpful defensively. As it stands, someone who needs to switch to a rank 0 shark is good for repping a couple mines out of the entrance and that is about it.

The 4th repel could be a fairly high rank upgrade (30-40?) and you could increase the % for being prized. I rarely last 30 seconds in real games.

Edit: In summary, I agree with Aquatiq.

[roxxkatt]

but on a ship where it can shoot 1-hit-kill bullets for less energy than this slow l1 bomb that jav, lev, and shark all come with by default (and lanc relatively early too), it's not needed.

i disagree

bullets cant go thru walls :sorcerer:

maybe a smidge faster ftw

bot kiled game, 1 flag

.

srsly, omg.
have the bot do a final check of the flags before it kills the epic game =(
or something >_>

[Aquatiq]

what are you talking about?

[roxxkatt]

bullet = pew
bomb = boom

bullet + wall + nme = "ez"
bomb + wall + nme = pwned

D:

[AcidBomber]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that shark repels need to be reduced so something a little more normal. 4 maximum, and only get more via prizes. Maybe they could start with 3 at rank 0, just a thought, and have the 4th be a special acquisition like the terr's 2nd burst. Becuase it's becoming more and more apparent that giving shark all this special random shit like cloak, guns, thrust-bombing and a million repels to get people to play it is not the way to go. Dug, there has to be something you can do with the settings of the ship (give it more energy, let more sharks tank L2s easier, give it more profit sharing options, idk). It's just that all this special shit the shark has is obviously designed to attract people to play the ship, and common sense would tell you that once people -do- play the ship, it's overpowered. And it is. It's just 1 ship, it shouldn't be able to keep an entire team occupied by itself (which it can).

I am with Aqua here on the shark.
If you stayed in the game today, you would realize that wins from meddi's team is because of meddi.
AKA - "LEAD DEFENSE: MEDDI [13 BREAKS] LEAD OFFENSE: MEDDI [12 HOLDS]"

Basically sharks won it for em... and with meddi's rank 44 shark he has like 8 reps? + cloak to distract. lol...
pretty much sits on flag and rep everyone else, plus the mines that cover flag.

Anyways, i agree with 3 reps at start and getting it prized frequently as the shark gets higher ranks, makes more sense. cuz now the shark get 1 rep? lol


PS: I agree with Meddi. -_-

[project dragon]

As for the jav rocket, I believe it is hard to tinker with because it messes with the rocket settings for the entire arena, mainly the weasles, and I don't think people would be happy when they see a weasle zoom past them, shoot, then zoom away.

At least that is what I understand the problem to be.