Base Map Change

[Spider]

I'm a little uncomfortable with changing the map too much. What we have now, especially without the blocks, has really good balance. Being in the flagroom is an advantage but it doesn't make the guys outside give up. Base switches hands over and over during the course of a base game, even if the teams are a little uneven. Flagroom battles are exciting.

Whenever the map is changed whoever is making the new one gets too carried away putting little walls and hiding spots all over the flagroom and it gets too cluttered. The one we have right now is really simple, with a few places for the terr to hide during a flagroom battle. The nice part of those hiding places is they are very risky and going into them signals to the opposing team that they have a chance to get a TeK and win the flagroom battle. Isn't that what you think when you see the terr down go into those little spaces furthest down in the flagroom (either side of the flagroom entrance) or up into the "ears". That's part of the dynamic that we might not get in a new map if things are too different. We sorta lucked into what I think is a really good map design.

That being said, and I don't think staff endorses this at this point but they might just not have thought of it, lets start considering some other options. I don't play "events" very often so tell me some of the better basing arenas in TW and I'll check those maps out. Also, has anyone made a map and want to share it with everyone?

Someone should give making a quick map a try. We just need something with a flagroom and a "lower" base, other than that you don't need to get carried away... This could be sorta cool. It is an "old" map, but it's also a "good" one I guess is my point. Lets only change it if we find something else that is really good.

[Dethdefire]

No no, i meant its TOO EASY to get in now, terring in defending cram is bored as hell too..

I hated the block removal at first. After playing it for some time I started to enjoy it much more. You can still hold a good cram and a good ter, with work, can prevent himself from beging completely repped out of the cram. If a ter is somehow repped out of te cram he can position his team to prevent the enemy ter from getting in, possibly creating a TEK situation. I did this as a shark multiple times, the enemy ter was get repped ugaianst the wall and became stuck causing a tek.

[A I]

no blocks

[Jeenyuss]

bump

now that it's been added to twbd i think more people are getting a taste of it. thoughts?

[Ronn]

bump

now that it's been added to twbd i think more people are getting a taste of it. thoughts?

its shit

[freddie]

It's still good. I wouldnt mind trying different solutions either, but lets not go back to old map.

edit: I still think we should make new poll after a while, just to see if people have changed their minds.

[Soilderz]

I hate guys that say, STCIK WITH THE BLOCK: NO changes pweese!!

Jeez, I dont want another lb season of cramming 24/7, fr battle>cram.

[Cran]

not real sure on how to vote yes or no, but i want the map with the blocks...

[Fit of Rage]

No blocks is awesome. A really good team can figure out how to squeeze off a small cram for a little while but this will lead to many more flagfights than before, and that's where teams should have to shine anyway.

[PrOnEsSim]

Fuck the No Blocks

Fuckin' Riot. Discuss!

[dads revenge]

Your getting the taste of how much better the map can be all you need now is to dive inn full and change the whole base its been a long time ciming lets get it done.

[Zerzera]

I love the no blocks

[dads revenge]

Its a change ya know like what you should do with your shorts for a change

[WingZero]

I've never been so frustrated with basing... I was originally a proponent for the map change considering the affects it would have/has had on FR battles but now seeing it in action I have completely changed my mind. Removing the blocks allows way to many shots in FR battles... Yea okay, its easier to get into the FR, but once you are in it, it is pure chaos. You can't hold a side the same way you could before. Now you have to be aware of the fact that anyone can shoot you, from anywhere, at any time. While some may argue that it takes more skill to base successfully now, I would argue that the fun of the game decreases immensely. When teams are equally balanced, breaking the cram is a task that can be acheived with time and the reward for doing so is a reason to try.

change the map back please, its ruining basing.

Say what you will about 'cramming' but FR battles were much better with the blocks in place. They protected certain corner shots that have now become simply annoying.

[RoDNeY]

idk if i like it too much...