Captains in ?go base.

[Noah]

I know staff is getting complaints for everything and that it sucks, but that doesn't change the fact that this is a real issue.

When starting base when there's not too many players in there, we need to have good caps. Picking a bad cap is like starting base just to !killgame straight after, wasting your time for coming in and starting, and the players time for coming to the arena. Capping the first two players to call for cap and then leaving again will kill the game off pretty fast if one of them isn't able. If you don't get 2 decent caps to volunteer ask the players you trust that are in there to do it. When I did this when I was on staff I almost always found someone who would accept being cap.

?go base is maybe the most important arena in TW, because its the only place where players can learn how the competitive game work and where we can practice without being dependent of your squad.

[Downfall]

lol and then we'll get threads from ppl saying "stupid staff wouldnt give me cap".

[Vehicle]

I think your right to a certain extent Noah and I personally try to give cap to two players who I know can actually pick a decent 8. But the problem now is the same problem that's been echoing around the forums for a while; there's a lack of players. It's often hard to find two people who even want to cap rather than two competant players of the same. I think what you're saying is true, but it's sadly unavoidable.

[PH]

http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?t=24501

not the first, won't be the last.

[Voth]

The problem, in my opinion, is that there aren't two people who actually want to captain anymore, much less two people who are well known, respectable captains. It isn't like the old days where people would race to say "cap" to get captain. Now it's as if capping is a chore...

[Nockm]

Have the bot automatically maintain a database of good caps! After every game, rate each captain on their:

• Win ratio (each win multipled by how long they actually were captain for)
• Average time taken to pick
• Shortness of their own name (and lack of numbers)
• Amount of times they got MVP 2x in a row
• Ratio of times they didn't make themself jav
• Multiply by zero if name begins with 'Dald' (blacklisted)
• And some other essential criteria

Each time a guy assigns captain, the bot first checks if the player has a rating above a certain threshold... maybe the bot can give a !list of captains deemed good enough to cap in the first place. If there are none, then the bot can say *arena Cannot start game, current players of too low quality. For those good captains who don't want to captain, we can offer them incentive of 5 mins smod privileges if they win their game 10:00-0:00.

[Capital Knockers]

Have the bot automatically maintain a database of good caps! After every game, rate each captain on their:

• Win ratio (each win multipled by how long they actually were captain for)
• Average time taken to pick
• Shortness of their own name (and lack of numbers)
• Amount of times they got MVP 2x in a row
• Ratio of times they didn't make themself jav
• Multiply by zero if name begins with 'Dald' (blacklisted)
• And some other essential criteria

Each time a guy assigns captain, the bot first checks if the player has a rating above a certain threshold... maybe the bot can give a !list of captains deemed good enough to cap in the first place. If there are none, then the bot can say *arena Cannot start game, current players of too low quality. For those good captains who don't want to captain, we can offer them incentive of 5 mins smod privileges if they win their game 10:00-0:00.

Very awesome idea if anyone had time.

[Noah]

Good idea, it can be done as simple as the freq being able to vote good or bad on their cap at any point in the game.

The thing is that most in ?go base doesn't ask for cap because they are assuming that someone will take it and it will be a decent game. If a staffer had asked me to take cap because there wasn't any decent players asking I'd probably say yes 90% of the time. I'm sure this goes for others as well. I don't like to cap, but I'd rather cap and play a decent game than to not play at all or play a terrible game.

[Capital Knockers]

Good idea, it can be done as simple as the freq being able to vote good or bad on their cap at any point in the game.

The thing is that most in ?go base doesn't ask for cap because they are assuming that someone will take it and it will be a decent game. If a staffer had asked me to take cap because there wasn't any decent players asking I'd probably say yes 90% of the time. I'm sure this goes for others as well. I don't like to cap, but I'd rather cap and play a decent game than to not play at all or play a terrible game.

I agree. I usually, make very good teams as a captain. I used to be proud of how the few times I capped in there I didn't usually lose. It makes me wonder - could this be another way of increasing activity in ?go base?

After all, having more control over the captaining process, we can all agree, would make things less frustrating in the long run. In addition, what if we have a site somewhere, to compliment the captain thing? Ranked, as if it were a constantly automated TWDT type deal? Just with constantly changing captains/teams. It might be a hell of alot to ask for, but if someone could get this idea going, good old school vets will have a new area to compete in. Meaning more ?go base, and good people actually fighting for a captain spot - rather than some poor staffer fighting to get two caps period.

[Barton]

this is basely your own fault, if no decent want to cap then we have to pick newer caps.

instat of complaining ask for cap so that we got decent caps.

[Soilderz]

If i have 5 people that wants to cap, I pick the 2 i feel are the best ones, But i can't pick the best ones if only 2 or sometimes even just 1 guy wants to cap. I'm not gonna sit around for 10 mins so someone decent would like to cap. And just giving randomly to someone who is a good captain and isn't saying anyhting won't work, He may be afk and then the game will die pretty fast.
So it's up to you guys to nominate yourself to be captains if you are good captains.

[Noah]

This isn't always the case. I have seen that base has been started, and then the ER picked the first two to say cap and then leave again right away. I'm not saying that you have to pm everyone each time to find the two best caps. Just don't start it with two random caps and then leave again immediately.

[Money]

lets just get rid of ?go base altogether?

[StarKitty]

With all these solution to the bad captaining problem everyone is forgetting that these people still need to learn HOW to captain somewhere...

[Pressure Drop]

base is hardly ever running when i'm on now and when it is it's usually a few scrappy games trying to get it going and then collapsing as soon as a bd happens.

I don’t blame the staff at all generally no one wants to cap and I’ve seen them come and ask several times just to get 2 caps or having to kill the game when they cant, yet at least they turned up and tried.

I’m not usually prepared to cap these games anymore as i have in the past and with the low numbers it’s usualy a nightmare having to sub ppl loads or just play 6vs7 getting humped in a low quality game with everyone whining at you for a special … or spaming chats trying to get a few to actually turn up but virtually everyone is afk or just using SS as a chat client.

I remember it used to piss me off when base was active and the same ppl called cap game after game got it casue they were fast off the mark even though 5 asked for it, in that case it would be good if the bot had a !lastcap command to see the last 2 sets of captains etc to rotate it about a bit but for the amount base is running when I’m online it’s not worth it.

And it’s all about me


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