Distension discussion

[Viruk]

• Blinding issue: can't figure this one out. Is it only the blinding? Does it ever say that Vengeful Bastard has fired? (It will if you don't have !killmsg off.) If it's related to round-end loss, that one is intentional.

I have never noticed any other Vengeful Bastard effects. Last time I noticed it I was blinded shortly after my own team scored (with nothing saying that VB had fired) so it is not just a penalty for allowing the enemy to score. This was not shortly after end of a battle and I had been on the same team and ship since I arrived. Perhaps it can blind anyone randomly after goal scoring?

This is a work in progress. I am not going to be shoving this down trenchwars throats. There are still bugs to fix.

No one is forced to play Distension.
Many want more Distension.
Most Distension players enjoy it despite the bugs.

With the current rationed 'schedule' there is pressure to concentrate on leveling whenever the game is running.
24/7 Distension would free its players to attend any other interesting events.
24/7 Distension would free its players to better investigate bugs.
24/7 Distension would be fairest to those in other timezones.

Until we get 24/7 Distension we can't expect any one person to be able to provide a decent schedule of games (unless you can find a trusted insomniac Distension freak with no life). More Distension hosts please!

[Barton]

27/4 isn't a good idea, it will die out soon enough if u do that...

[Peace_Maker]

27/4 isn't a good idea, it will die out soon enough if u do that...

Interesting theory to shorten the week to 4 days and add 3 hours to each day, so a work week is 3 days and you rest on the forth?

I disagree with Barton on the game dying out. There are tons of upgrades and even if it does "die out" it is still way better than a pub that has been messed up and unimproved for a couple of years now.

[roxxkatt]

PH: "they already killed the only fun ship and you want to" -- elaborate? Can't fix the unknown, baby.

awwwwwwwwwwww yeaaaaaaaa

he's a bad mutha -SHUT YO MOUF-



RIP =(

[PH]

PH: "they already killed the only fun ship and you want to" -- elaborate? Can't fix the unknown, baby.

you took my shark bullets and you beat them over the head with a cinder block. now they're absolutely useless. so what, i'm supposed to rely entirely on mines and bombs that i can't even get off half the time due to wb/spider spam to get kills? yeah, interesting offer, but i'll pass.

[roxxkatt]

ph, you could speed past them, or cloak in in your shark, using the bullets you STILL HAVE....



been thinking about the future of distension, here are my thoughts:

soon, it needs to be 40 player max, 2 arenas with a bot and 40 each, and a distension core, with a global ops console for each army.
there WILL be more players.

a long time from now, distension will be too big, and maybe even 2 arenas will be too big. Tw simply cant handle the message load of 2, perhaps.
soon, a asss zone will need to be set up to handle a large distension:

Cheese!> hms, i had a thought
Cheese!> we have the technology
Cheese!> to put a bot here
Cheese!> which sends anyone who enters to another zone
Cheese!> without knowing
Cheese!> and
Cheese!> we could set up a zone in asss for distension
Cheese!> and
Cheese!> we could put a bouncer bot in ?go tw in that zone
Cheese!> making it SEEM like it is still tw
Cheese!> but really 2 seperate zones
Cheese!> I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA
AEn|ma> why keep distension out of TW?
Next belim is starting. Paradise has won 2 back to back! Type ?go belimbeta to play
Cheese!> because it will still BE tw
Cheese!> :>
AEn|ma> so say 300 ppl join TW
AEn|ma> 60 go to Dist
Cheese!> just in 2 different servers
AEn|ma> then there are 240 in TW
AEn|ma> are numbers important?
Cheese!> thats what the zone list will say, but there will still be 300
AEn|ma> ah, i get it
AEn|ma> different servers, same zone
AEn|ma> less lag?
Cheese!> maybe
Cheese!> running dist is a large strain on the server
AEn|ma> i could imagine
Cheese!> dist having its own server would ELIMINATE all bot lag, cuz there would be no bot
Someone bring the kryptonite to ?go duel, stayon has a 42 game winning streak in javelin! -DuelBot
AEn|ma> hockey zone has no bots, would something like what they do be helpful?
Cheese!> and it wouls still SEEM like it was tw
Cheese!> it will be like that
Cheese!> Cheese!> we could set up a zone in asss
AEn|ma> well why not just put the bot on a separate server?
Cheese!> hz is asss too
AEn|ma> ah, i see
Cheese!> because the bot sends messages
AEn|ma> i'm not savvy in this
Cheese!> and server has to handle messages
Cheese!> a LOT of messages
Orimattila> cheese is dug?
Cheese!> no
AEn|ma> gotcha, hence the 1% bonus if you turn off kill msgs from the bot
Cheese!> right, thats to help
Cheese!> but imagine getting a pub chat every time you get a green from the bot
Cheese!> EVERYONE gets a green
Cheese!> and its a message
Cheese!> A LOT
Cheese!> L
Cheese!> O
Cheese!> T
Cheese!> so what if
Cheese!> what if we made the server the bot?
Cheese!> 0 messages
Next elim is starting. Last round's winner was Stealthreaver! Type ?go elimbeta to play
Cheese!> if we did this, i think it would be best
AEn|ma> well DO IT
Next belim is starting. Last round's winner was 24! Type ?go belimbeta to play
Cheese!> cant, only dug can write the code
Cheese!> only he can optimize it for asss
AEn|ma> go to his house...and make it
AEn|ma> him
Cheese!> ...?
Cheese!> lmao
AEn|ma> where does he live? pay me and i'll do it

also:

I just shut it down LAST weekend because it was halloween.

holidays in tw are important to me, we should celebrate them, and i am PISSED that there was no map for april fools TWO YEARS IN A ROW, i loved those since i started playing.

There are still bugs to fix.

there are, and we cant FULLY turn on distensions engine till we know it wont catch on fire.

But he is in the arena 24/7, so he might as well be the bot.

if i left, and the arena was empty, scores would be erased. you have me to thank for that.

Ranking up is slow, I agree. However, this game's only been running a couple of weeks and we already have people in the low to mid 20's. The last abilities are gotten at rank 80

IT WILL TAKE A FEW YEARS TO GET TO LVL 80, DELIBERATELY. STOP COMPLAINING. UNLESS YOU WANT SHIPS TO BE RESET, OF COURSE.

Until we get 24/7 Distension we can't expect any one person to be able to provide a decent schedule of games (unless you can find a trusted insomniac Distension freak with no life). More Distension hosts please!

here i am =)
hms WE NEED A SCHEDULE! with SET TIMES, hosted ON TIME.

[DankNuggets]

Shark

what do you think about changing the shark limitation so that when the 1 base game is running, it's exactly the same, but when the 2 base game is running the following takes place:

Keep the maximum sharks per team at +1, but allow for two sharks when the other team has none. With 40 ppl playing, 2 sharks on one team isn't absurd or overpowering. If the other team wants to not have any sharks, that shouldn't preclude the other team from having 2 - one to defend/attack each base.

I wouldn't change it to +2 in general, the idea of one more shark than the other team works well in all scenarios except when one team has no sharks and the other is maxed out at one.



As far as the bullets go, how different are they from the beta test (around when it ended) ? My shark around then could shoot 3-4 bullets and 2-3 multi with one go. Low ranked shark isn't really supposed to be able to shoot a stream of bullets, just one or two to take down an unsuspecting, low energy opponent (or most of the time enemy sharks).

[Peace_Maker]

Cheese!> the reason that anyone knew how to unlock wzl or lanc is because i told the secret before i knew i wasnt supposed to

So the only reason anyone has weasel is because they were told how. I think the ship should be locked or everyone should know how to get it. Opinions?

Things like this remind me of the way hyperspace is ran which was very annoying. I hope this is not the road distension is going down.

[duel pasta]

its really hard to kill in shark, when 40 players are playing everybody will just tank the little red bullet you can shoot and the delay to shoot another one is just too big, would be better if the delay was shorter, raise the energy it takes to shoot a bullet if you want but, I would like to see a smaller delay

also bomb radius is very small which makes it even harder to kill. Lev ands Javs both have a bigger bomb radius then shark, well I can understand jav having a bigger radius, but with the weak bullets, we sharks depend on our mines and bombs. and you really have to aim your bombs REALLY well to kill someone beacuse if its misses by a little, it wont do any damage

[meddi]

I would really love to be able to play some distension, given how much time I dedicated to playing the beta version, but I can't simply hang around online all day waiting for it to start. The last two times I tried to come online in the afternoon I spent 15 mins in spec waiting for someone to leave so I could join an army, and then the game simply ended before that even occurred.

[Peace_Maker]

Qan is it possible to have the bot start automatically once or twice a day at certain times without an op to run it?

[StarKitty]

The chat bot needs changing.. It still tells people to go to #distension.

[dako]

Weird bug im getting... all these PMs occured simultaneously

Distension> A slot has opened up. You may now join the battle.
Distension> DAKO authorized as a pilot of PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF MISANTHROPY. Returning you to HQ.
Distension> DAKO leaving hangars of PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF MISANTHROPY. Time played today: 0 min.
Distension> Another player wishes to enter the game; you have been removed to allow them to play.
Distension> Pilot limit reached: 40. You are in the queue to replace the pilot who has flown the longest at the end of the battle.

[project dragon]

maybe slightly projectile bombs for shark? nothing fast, just. . . movable.

[Stabwound]

So is it true that z-class gets overall less upgrade points than the other specializations? That seems a bit lame...