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  • No higher up staff would ever agree to a 1-year TW ban for violating a Distension rule- especially one difficult/sketchy to prove is even being violated. It could, however, be a permanent Distension ban on both aliases.

    Originally posted by TagMor View Post
    sigh..


    Not sure why you are claiming only a "distension op/player" can do general staff tasks in the distension arena.. what if someone was using ce or hacking?
    If there is such a stupid rule it should be removed/altered.
    I explained it in the previous reply. If someone doesn't play Distension, they're going to have no idea who plays using what aliases, and there is no readily available way to check that via bot/database.

    Originally posted by Tagmor
    Oh and I think it is kinda funny that you criticise the level of discernment needed for this, when you happily support the idea of YOU being able to judge whether people have "abused" the assist system...
    This is for the same reason as above. Because there is no bot/database method of checking up on Distension aliases (at the moment). Judging whether someone has abused the assist system is obviously not an objective thing, but it's usually quite obvious as there are a few serial offenders. For the record, I have never banned a single person, although a few people have been warned via PM.

    Your idea would work if bot work was done to accommodate Distension alias checking for operators, and that, admittedly, would be trivial for someone like qan. If that were the case, though, it could probably go a step farther and just automatically disallow multiple accounts to login during that Distension session going by macid/ip along with the op alias checking to catch anyone that bypasses that. To be honest, I'll suggest this to him. The rule would have to be "no aliases whatsoever" though. Now that I think of it, the sibling thing probably wouldn't matter at all if it only logged aliasing per session; what are the chances of two siblings playing Distension one after the other in the same 2-hour session? Not very likely.

    I also asked him to fix the command that raises the player limit, because it could probably handle being higher. It's just a shame that he's so busy and doesn't have a lot of time to do anything Distension-related.

    Look, I'll agree that the whole thing is annoying and should be against the rules. The thing is, people are bitching and whining at me to do something about it NOW, which I am powerless to do without alias checking power. I apologize for getting a bit pissy about it, but some people have just been straight up dicks about it. This alias thing wouldn't be much of an issue if the queue worked correctly (and it doesn't) and if the player limit wasn't so severely cut back. Believe me, I've been trying to get qan to work on it, but he's been showing up once a week or less and it's a pain in the ass.
    Last edited by Stabwound; 02-04-2009, 01:29 PM.
    sdg

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    • much appreciated

      as usual, we will sit back and spark a blunt or two, and wait for qan to come riding in and fix everything. i really can't fault someone for volunteering in their own time, so if it's just a case of being patient then that's what it is. I know it's probably annoying to have to say "sorry, we just have to wait for qan" but it's the truth.




      In the mean time:

      People please don't be jackasses and play multiple accounts. They may not want to make it a rule until they can enforce it, but it will most likely be one.

      Frightful was overly apologetic last night for starting all this mess, so we'd better not see "not frightful" or "possibly frightful" around anymore if you want to be taken seriously (and given amnesty if they eventually make it an bannable offense).

      You want to play it so bad, let others play it too.
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      • In an interesting turn of events:

        (MessageBot)>2009 Feb 4 12:24PM (distension) qan: UPDATE: Creating altnicks to cheat other players out of queue slots will no longer be tolerated. If you're caught, you may be banned from Dist. ?msg me if you need to move ships over from alt
        Anyone caught aliasing will have both accounts banned from Distension. Please report any suspected aliasing to myself or another Distension op.

        Have a nice day!
        sdg

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        • For the record if someone thinks they could get around aliasing by exiting the game when a higher staff comes into the arena...they do not have to be in the arena to alias check. I imagine if someone is aliasing it will be found out rather quickly because so many players will be reporting it. I am afraid this could lead to a rash of unwarranted accusations. For the sake of the process please be conservative in reports. If to many people are falsely reported I think the staffers that have to check aliases will become discouraged and not want to take the calls.

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          • not to mention someone with a vendetta could make a similar sounding alias to induce ?cheater calls. don't do this either please.

            example:
            dako hates cheese! and creates the alias cheese? to get a lot of people ?cheater calling him.



            but that would be completely retarded (you, yourself would be aliasing and would get banned) so don't do it.
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            • Originally posted by qan View Post
              ?msg me if you need to move ships over from alt
              what is that about? Can we move ships from alt alias' to our 1 account?
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              • i don't think you can add RP to it or anything, it's probaby more like if you want to change your name on your main profile.
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                • Originally posted by Stabwound View Post
                  In an interesting turn of events:



                  Anyone caught aliasing will have both accounts banned from Distension. Please report any suspected aliasing to myself or another Distension op.

                  Have a nice day!
                  And when will qan fix increasing the player limit?

                  Inquiring minds want to know.
                  Sit down.
                  Stand up.
                  Walk into
                  The jaws of hell.
                  Anytime. Anytime.
                  We can wipe you out

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                  • I'm not really sure what qan meant by "moving ships" because the message was cut off. :P I'm guessing he means if you had a shark on an alt and want it on your main account he can do that, but I'm not 100% sure.

                    And he said he'd look at the player cap increasing command. It's still broken at the moment, unfortunately.
                    sdg

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                    • distension ops have always had the capability to change someone's name, and have done so multiple times in the past.

                      however, this is only done sparingly, so choose your name wisely!
                      The above text is a personal opinion of an individual and is not representative of the statements or opinions of Trench Wars or Trench Wars staff.

                      SSCJ Distension Owner
                      SSCU Trench Wars Developer


                      Last edited by Shaddowknight; Today at 05:49 AM. Reason: Much racism. So hate. Such ban. Wow.

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                      • Although that's true, it has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
                        sdg

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                        • First of all this will be my last post in this thread so no need for the "stop whining" shit. I wont read it.


                          Today during the 1am session Stabwound banned me from distension without warning. He claimed it was because I abused the assist system, yet the teams were 11 vs. 13 and around 1130 vs. 1370 points.. It was at the start of a new round.
                          Stab tried to justify it by saying I assisted a team that had won the last 5 battles.. yet the teams were completely different due to people being specced.
                          Then, 5 minutes later he unbans me.
                          I return and join hte queue where it says I am 1/9. I continue to sit in spec and Dbot randomly starts PM'n me with:
                          DBot> A slot has opened up. Sending you to your army...
                          Yet I am unable to enter.
                          This continues for the next 20mins, at which point I realise it must be a bug with banning and unbanning.

                          To conclude, I have had enough of the bullshit surrounding this game and am done with it. Just as it gets back on track, Stabwound starts abusing his power for whatever personal reasons.
                          It's pretty childish and basically there are other games/aspects of Tw where I dont have to deal with such bullshit.

                          I know the common attitude is that I whine and wont be missed, however people accepting such bias and abuse from the Mod is retarded and will only do bad things for the game.
                          gl to you all.
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                          • Well, I'm sorry the bot fucked up... I guess that's another thing for qan to work on. I only wanted to kick you out of the current game (qan says to *spec people but that doesn't keep them in spec in Distension because of the bot) and Distension bans are only either on/off, you can't specify a time or anything.

                            Anyway, since you want to make this public, please spare us the "playing dumb" BS. You know exactly what you did. You were on the shit team for many games straight, complain and whine about it forever, and then you nobly "assist" the other team as soon as you get the chance.

                            Give me a break and stop acting like a victim.
                            Last edited by Stabwound; 02-06-2009, 12:54 AM.
                            sdg

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                            • oh noes the big baby has had enough

                              maybe he'll find a conspiracy in something else~

                              dibs on betting that won't be his last post here
                              My father in law was telling me over Thanksgiving about this amazing bartender at some bar he frequented who could shake a martini and fill it to the rim with no leftovers and he thought it was the coolest thing he'd ever seen. I then proceeded to his home bar and made four martinis in one shaker with unfamiliar glassware and a non standard shaker and did the same thing. From that moment forward I knew he had no compunction about my cock ever being in his daughter's mouth.

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                              • oh noes the troll has found this topic again
                                The above text is a personal opinion of an individual and is not representative of the statements or opinions of Trench Wars or Trench Wars staff.

                                SSCJ Distension Owner
                                SSCU Trench Wars Developer


                                Last edited by Shaddowknight; Today at 05:49 AM. Reason: Much racism. So hate. Such ban. Wow.

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