Distension discussion

[KuNi]

Oh shit. I didn't know that was you Nobbi. Hi.

Hi gp <3

I know another arena is in the future, and maybe there should a level restriction to who can play in each arena.

Yer, people were talking about this a few pages back, I don't remember how it ended but it would be a good idea, but for this to work, distension would have to prove it can run smoothly with the one arena and a higher player cap.

I'm not fond of the ship reset idea at all, and I know quite a few people who would stop playing if qan did that. Now I know it IS just a game, but to put so much time into a ship just have it reset kind of defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place. No one wants to lose their beloved ship, eh?

I agree with this, but imo I would like there to be a reset just so I can start a new ship(i know people play multiple ships). I know that would be annoying for some, because they have such high level in some ships, I like to terrier and weasel, but right now I would much rather play jav or spid, I feel that if i started now though, It would be hard for me to get kills and I would never be able to catch up to high ranked players like fright and viruk. A reset really is inevitable unless new stuff is added to the game. With a reset some players would leave, but I'm sure new people would start to play.

[getting pwned]

I agree with this, but imo I would like there to be a reset just so I can start a new ship(i know people play multiple ships). I know that would be annoying for some, because they have such high level in some ships, I like to terrier and weasel, but right now I would much rather play jav or spid, I feel that if i started now though, It would be hard for me to get kills and I would never be able to catch up to high ranked players like fright and viruk. A reset really is inevitable unless new stuff is added to the game. With a reset some players would leave, but I'm sure new people would start to play.

Well just think of it this way. If those people who are level 40+ [I say 40+ cause lower level ships might have a better chance against them] actually start flying one of their other ships, it would be the same thing as a noob coming into the game. 40+ ships should let lower level ships of the same type have a try, reguardless of the level or the amount of complaining they might get for accidental tk's, and deaths. [Like terriers, javs, levs, and wicket666]

Change things up a bit for the game as a whole.

[Peace_Maker]

I do not think there should be a reset. I would rather be for a !shipreset option for players who want to start over in a certain ship. I think after I get bored of terr I will switch to shark since sharks win flag games.

[getting pwned]

I do not think there should be a reset. I would rather be for a !shipreset option for players who want to start over in a certain ship. I think after I get bored of terr I will switch to shark since sharks win flag games.

Thats a good idea. Maybe qan should impliment that for those who are sick of their ships, or want to customize it a different way.

[roxxkatt]

or perhaps qan already did, and that has existed since before you started playing, and only those who can be trusted with it can use it, and on anyone...
:turned:

[Stabwound]

Yeah... if anyone (for some weird reason) wants a ship wiped on their account, just message me in game. I don't know why anyone would want to do that, though, because nothing a player can do to their ship in Distension is permanent. Wiping a ship is permanent, though.

I would be totally against a complete player wipe, and I think qan is too. I don't think that will ever happen unless he totally overhauls the upgrade/ranking system to the point where a wipe is necessary.

Also, as nobbi would have already noticed, starting a new ship now is actually easier to rank than before. You get so much more RP for kills. The only problem is getting over the hurdle of about rank 0-10 when your ship is just speedbump for everyone else. :P

[Trunks_rage]

The Lanc

Even though I already have the lanc and it was extremely hard to get, I wouldn't mind if there was an easier way to unlock it. However, it must require some type of skill. It is the most powerful ship in the game, and therefore should not be an automatic unlock at a certain rank.

It could be different depending on the ship, but some combination of terr kills, holds, breaks and actual kills might make it easier. Say a terr kill counts as multiple kills towards the overall kill count and breaks and holds do as well.

I think breaks and holds should be worth 3 kills each, terr kills 2. I think this would encourage competitiveness and help make the unlock easier.

[KuNi]

Also, as nobbi would have already noticed, starting a new ship now is actually easier to rank than before. You get so much more RP for kills. The only problem is getting over the hurdle of about rank 0-10 when your ship is just speedbump for everyone else. :P

17 ranks in 1 and a half days is pretty good I guess. ^-^

I think breaks and holds should be worth 3 kills each, terr kills 2. I think this would encourage competitiveness and help make the unlock easier.

I think it should be the other way round. worth 3 kills for tek, 2 for hold/break. A tek is much harder to get than a hold/break, but I suppose making it easier for shark would be good, But If a hold/break would equal 3 kills than weasel would get lanc way too easily.

[Trunks_rage]

Most weasels already have lanc anyway. But I want to encourage people to touch the flag because there are way too many cowards that hang back. Ultimately whatever combination people can agree on is fine as long as it increases competitiveness and not camping.

[Viruk]

Most weasels already have lanc anyway. But I want to encourage people to touch the flag because there are way too many cowards that hang back. Ultimately whatever combination people can agree on is fine as long as it increases competitiveness and not camping.

Total # of Weasels: 41
Total # of Lancasters: 16
The lanc is clearly much harder to unlock and most weasels don't have it.

I suspect that many who unlocked the lanc earlier did it mainly through camping just as many have done for weasel. Streak bonuses already promote camping so this certainly is not the sort of skill that needs further encouragement. I would argue for ignoring campers' streak kills and tapering their kill RP but I doubt the server could ever reliably detect repeat kills from the same position.

It certainly seems good sense to include useful basing feats such as holds, breaks and FR terrier kills in unlock conditions. It also makes sense to unlock a ship using skills you will need to play that ship usefully and effectively.

A useful weasel ought to be good at flag grabbing and terrier killing whereas camping is often unwise as it reveals their position and invites bombing. Having it unlocked by camping makes no sense.

A useful lanc should mainly be killing a lot and moving forward to take and hold the flag when needed. They should also be good at dealing with invading cloakers. (Perhaps another possible skill feat would involve killing weasels in FR and holding the flag.) I believe that repeated straying across the FR using multifire and leeching can often be useful too. However having lanc unlocked by camping through holes or from outside base still makes little sense.

[roxxkatt]

lol, try getting lanc by camping.
i dare you.

[Trunks_rage]

Yeah it's impossible to get lanc by camping. Most of the people that unlocked it did it one of three ways. An overpowered terr, an overpowered spider, or an overpowered weasel. I can only think of maybe 3 people that unlocked it with spider, including myself. A lot of the others did it with weasel. Now it's just really hard to get it no matter what ship you are because people can tank. And since nobody has unlocked lanc in a long time, you get new people unlocking the weasel who aren't going to be able to use it to unlock the lanc, that is why so many more people have weasel now. You might have a shot at unlocking it when you get lvl 2s and super at the same time. You'll need to get some good machine gun action going. I pretty much was mowing everyone down when I earned lanc.

[dako]

How to get lanc (for dummies)

1. Wait for the player limit to go back to 20v20 (if ever). This is a HUGE part of being able to get many kills, and is why very few people get lanc anymore. those extra 6 enemies mean a lot for kill density.

2. Have weasel. This really isn't that hard, melanoma's been trying for a couple days to get it, and has gotten really close apparently. The key to getting weasel now, is in those mid round soccer games. You can stay at about base level (make sure sketch / epic li / cloak stealth weasel isnt playing) and snipe up / down toward the goal area. I found this racked up a decent amount of kills, between 8-10 per soccer game, with fairly little retaliation from preoccupied soccer players.

3. Don't expect to ratio. I got lanc with a level 23 weasel, not exactly high ranked, even for a couple months ago. The key is attach rocket suicide and get as many bullets out as you can. FR battles are your friend, you can either rush their spiders / wbs / javs, or be like me and just spray from the ear. I ended up going about 165-120 in a 30 minute game, with quite a bit of luck. This is how 80% of lancs got their lanc.

4. Without weasel, you better be a really lucky high ranked terr, a really lucky spider, or lizard fuel.

5. Try to pick a round with few / not many sharks in play, or a single base game that stacks up to 14v14. The latter makes lanc a lot more doable.


For those of you that think lanc is a god ship, how wrong you are. Lanc is practically an aircraft carrier, has shoddy recharge (made up for by leech), and never really gets a whole lot after its burst, which sucks. It sure does pack a punch in those mid levels though.

[getting pwned]

4. Without weasel, you better be a really lucky high ranked terr, a really lucky spider, or lizard fuel.

I lol'd

[CaptainPoopface]

It seems like weasel and lanc reward play that is cheap and contrary to the spirit of the game.

That and the lack of periodic ship resets will keep me from trying Distension again. Who wants to play level 7 spider against level 63 whatevers? Just my $0.02. I think you're creating barriers to entry, which means the population will probably stagnate.