how to make lancs useful in basing

[sTuPiD-gErBiL]

step 1) keep all their weaponry the same, but reduce their energy down to 800'ish (approximation of being able to be killed by 2 spider bullets or reasonable splash damage from jav bombs)

step 2) make it spawn with antiwarp. however, antiwarp causes drain so that it can't just sit there all day preventing people from attaching

right now, the lanc's base role is basically sit back and snipe because of it's horrible manueverability, and even then it's sniping abilities suck royally. what i'm proposing is to take that clunky mediocre fighter and turn it into a good utility ship meant to disrupt the other team by not allowing them to attach, but while still having decent defensive capabilities so that it can still participate in flagroom fights.

please use this in the same test arena as the cloaker idea.

[Dabram]

question:

would u give lancs antiwarp in twlb aswell?

otherwise i don't mind.

[sTuPiD-gErBiL]

this is intended for league-calibre use. in pub, most people will just use lanc to spawnkill anyways.

[Arc-lite]

Hrmm, I don't know if this new lanc will be any more attractive than the original one. I mean if it can be killed with 2 spider bullets, it wont be much use in flagroom battles as it probably wont be able to go far. As far as the antiwarp, i don't know how effective it can be spawning as it will rely mostly on luck I think. Nice try though, but I don't know if people would be willing to replace a spider with it.

[Malladrin]

.....But maybe a jav....

[Verthanthi]

Originally posted by Arc-lite
Hrmm, I don't know if this new lanc will be any more attractive than the original one. I mean if it can be killed with 2 spider bullets, it wont be much use in flagroom battles as it probably wont be able to go far. As far as the antiwarp, i don't know how effective it can be spawning as it will rely mostly on luck I think. Nice try though, but I don't know if people would be willing to replace a spider with it.

I might. Anything that can keep a terr from porting from danger? thats pretty nasty......

[Fluffz]

even better: give levis emp bombs and allow them to attach but take away the repels. emp is pretty nasty and he could use his port to kill the terr. ownage. id start playing again to see that happen. or leave his repels and give the port to the weasel! wohoo

lanc on the other hand could be used as spiderkiller. let em do half damage with half costs and decrease his reload time. since spiders are low on energy all the time this could work. but maybe not who cares..

[za gophar]

i like basing how it is now

[pv=nrt]

give the lanc at least 1000 nrg if you do this. the draining of nrg and a stray bullet would end the lanc. make it so that it shold be 2 bullets or a lucky 1000 to end him.

[ZeUs!!]

Originally posted by za gophar
i like basing how it is now

If it aint broke dont fix it

[Vykromond]

Originally posted by ZeUs!!
If it aint broke dont fix it

It is broken. Two of the seven ships that can be used in sanctioned basing matches are never used (the lank and the cloaker). That's more than 1/4. I consider that "broken," and if you don't then I don't know what you're smoking.

I like Gerbz's idea, but the starting energy of the lank needs to be toyed with. 800 is probably a lower bound, and about 1000 should be the upper bound for testing purposes. Personally, I think 900 would be ideal, but you can't idly speculate about stuff like this- it needs to be rigorously tested, then applied.

[Louis XV]

levis need to be reinstated into leagues k

[Webbb Llama v1.5]

Lowering their nrg means lowering the nrg it takes to fire, which means they could fire more rapidly.

I don't like this new lanc, the anti-warp could be abused, but if anybody is set on trying it, all you need to do is make a ?go newlanc map and submit it to TW Dev, then have ambitious hosts like Wark or WingZero host a few times.

[Bosshawk]

interesting question

a couple years ago, the lanc in TW could still green or buy a Thor

what if a lanc had or could green 1 thor at a time?

maybe with a slightly faster recharge to maybe fire 2 L2 guns with double barrel fire, but no mutlifire?


think that would make it an asset in basing?

be interesting for a hit on the flag from below?