Stuff I've noticed in TW pubs lately...

[Reclusion]

The past few times I've been in TW, I've noticed a full ?go base arena... Just an idea as to why pubs are sucking...

GO GO ELITIST BASING!

[SLaQ n Sauce]

pubs are only good for private freq extreme lame bounty runs.

[Rodge_Rabbit]

Re: agreed

Originally posted by Blue Thunder2003
And Zh's and ER's should start putting a little more time into helping the newbs out instead of "having to" host many many rounds of zombies or DM, which really are fun dont get me wrong.

Not only staff has to do that. You can also help yourself. Just help the players who has questions, and dont dissapoint them with wrong answers, as press esc + queen or type playername : password to play . That I find very annoying.
Help your fellow player: it isn't a great difficulty!

Greetings,

[Blue Thunder2003]

Okay, then I say this, Im not trying to knock on ER's or ZH's. But I do think there should be another set of people chosen as Newb Helpers. Sure, newbs could just ask anyone, but like what was mentioned abouve, people may start to be asses wit the newbs. At least this way the newbs will know who to talk to.

[Mobey]

Originally posted by SLaQ n Sauce
pubs are only good for private freq extreme lame bounty runs.

Agreed.

[Stabwound]

As long as ?go base is full and running, there is no reason for me to play pub, or anything else. If ?go base was stopped for some reason, I'd probably quit the game.

[Mobey]

no way ill just wait the long wait for baseelim

[Verthanthi]

to anyone who wants levi free basing.

?go basing

[za gophar]

perhaps ?go base should have a bit more variation. in elim and baseelim, there are several games players can pick from.

i say that base should be like that. ideas for games:
1. 20 Minute free-for-all, with free enter and free shipchanges (no levis). At the end a team would win and there would be an MVP.
2. Regular 20 minute games with 2 caps picking teaMS of 8.
3. A certain squad vs. world
4. 3 or more team basing
5. warzone style???
6. i ran out of ideas... but im sure there are many possibilities.

this solves a few problems. for one, people who never get picked will be allowed to play freely during the free-for-all games, and this could increase the popularity of the arena itself AND basing in pubs.

one out of every three or four games should be randomly picked by the bot, cause players may pick a favorite and stick with it like they do with warbird to 10.

[Jonas]

Pubs suck because the experienced players now reside solely in ?go elim, ?go baseelim and ?go base.

[bloodzombie]

Originally posted by za gophar
perhaps ?go base should have a bit more variation. in elim and baseelim, there are several games players can pick from.

i say that base should be like that. ideas for games:
1. 20 Minute free-for-all, with free enter and free shipchanges (no levis). At the end a team would win and there would be an MVP.
2. Regular 20 minute games with 2 caps picking teaMS of 8.
3. A certain squad vs. world
4. 3 or more team basing
5. warzone style???
6. i ran out of ideas... but im sure there are many possibilities.

this solves a few problems. for one, people who never get picked will be allowed to play freely during the free-for-all games, and this could increase the popularity of the arena itself AND basing in pubs.

one out of every three or four games should be randomly picked by the bot, cause players may pick a favorite and stick with it like they do with warbird to 10.

what I see here is "let's ruin a perfectly good arena"

I rarely play pub anymore because it's just not fun. nobody's trying to base there, and if you try to teach people, they think they alreday know more than you. pub is a lost cause, let the retards fly around and shoot each other.. and use it to practice a new ship.. but don't ever expect good basing in there as long as the lev is the way it is.

pure basing weekends really work. some good basing happens during those. if the upper staff actually wanted basing to happen in pub, they would adjust the rules to closer resemble the pure basing weekends.. they obviously don't want that.
they prefer an arena of retards with guns, so don't expect any more than that when you ?go to a pub.

[Zerzera]

Originally posted by Blue Thunder2003
Okay, then I say this, Im not trying to knock on ER's or ZH's. But I do think there should be another set of people chosen as Newb Helpers. Sure, newbs could just ask anyone, but like what was mentioned abouve, people may start to be asses wit the newbs. At least this way the newbs will know who to talk to.

There should be no need to 'set' people into helping.. While in public I will try to answer any question I can. Sometimes I get the feeling I get screwed by someone in an altnick, that is their problem.
I don't know much about how a zone develops itself, but I think that public is the breed for the players of tomorrow, there has just been a big increase of serious base players (also due to efforts of some staff members), and if you want to keep it that way, you need to continue with the teaching.
When I say something about public, you hear some people going like: public? newbies.. it sucks.
At times it's harder to play your game in a public than in .?go base, so maybe its just too much of a challenge for some people.
But don't forget that you might impress and inspire new players while you show your abilities in pubs.
A big pack of players just turned into decadent and arrogant people that rather keep it the way it is. Those people may find out that after some time all their opponents retired and there is no one to have a serious fight with.

[za gophar]

well i dont think what i proposed would ruin ?go base... i think that arena gets pretty boring, its the same thing over and over and over. just thought some slight variations would make it more fun and stuff.

[Zeb Sent]

I agree with all that was mentioned above, I can also state that during the time I've played I can count on one hand the good base games I had in a pub, there was a reason those games were good, they all involved experienced players, not the majority of the team, but a minority of it, it was enough.

I believe that the biggest reason to the situation in pubs nowadays is simply the fact that most experienced players limit themselves to private basing areas, or just other areas, as long as they don't play pub.

Like Zerzera stated before, he was playing a game and his team was blown up by a lev, therefore they all gave up and stopped trying to get base.
A couple more of experienced people in the team would have helped it realize that shit happens, but they can still get base again and have fun defending it.

All the other things that TK stated are of course a bit upsetting, but yet they might pass with time, if more people who know what they're doing would play pub, most of those problems would be automatically resolved.

Thanks for reading,
Goodnight,
Anton.

[Verthanthi]

Originally posted by za gophar
i say that base should be like that. ideas for games:
1. 20 Minute free-for-all, with free enter and free shipchanges (no levis). At the end a team would win and there would be an MVP.
If you want any ship basing, get an <ER> friend to host something. Everyone has an <ER> friend.

2. Regular 20 minute games with 2 caps picking teaMS of 8.
ingenious idea

3. A certain squad vs. world
those happen occasionally as it is

4. 3 or more team basing
blah. flag room team has a massive advantage, blah blah blah we all know the deal.

5. warzone style???
While I agree that ?go warzone, ?go warzone2 and ?go warzone3 need hosts, I have no idea how warzone style would work in base, and I can't imagine it being fun. It'd be like making lots of hockey like arenas in tw when there is already hz.

6. i ran out of ideas... but im sure there are many possibilities.
The main idea of ?go base is to capture the essence of actual matches. If you think of some awesome base variant make a map (and then bribe TWDev and whack mr mike). Leave ?go base alone.


this solves a few problems. for one, people who never get picked will be allowed to play freely during the free-for-all games, and this could increase the popularity of the arena itself AND basing in pubs.
I don't see this in anyway helping pubs. It would just draw more people away from them.

one out of every three or four games should be randomly picked by the bot, cause players may pick a favorite and stick with it like they do with warbird to 10.
god forbid we allow people to play their favorite game