Trench Wars Repairs!

[Ara]

This is the reason why most of decision making is made inside staff. People who don't know half of what's going on always have an opinion. How about you give some credit to the guys that have worked hard for supplying us with better gaming experience. Really, I personally don't care of your +1s when you have no idea of the bigger picture. If you are so keen on partisipating in decision making join staff, oh wait we only accept people who are some what stable and mature. How about this thread get locked.

[Crescent Seal]

Did you even play when TWD was first launched? The first TWD season was the best out of every reset since then. There were over 100 squads on the TWDD ladder, and maybe 50 on both TWJD and TWBD ladder. The top competition was completely different, you actually had to be good to win a TWLD title then, not just be a good shark or whatever. TWD rarely crashed, Mythrandir did a great job.

Elim arenas HAD TO be made bigger because the arena was just too full. Sure there were many more people in the zone back then, but there was no need of a flashy GAME OVER after each round, there was no need of counting Accuracy of shots fired every odd second or whatever this bot is counting now. Elim was fine with Robo Ref, except fora small avg bug which was fixed.

This zone's problem is that every damn new guy who can code/create something wants to create something new and shitty to feel important while chasing away the core-members of the zone who just want a functional elim.

TWLD finals had 250 people in the arena, what do you think people want the most out of a zone? fishies version #214234?

Pubs, elims, duel, pracs, twd, twl -> go

+1

[Stayon]

lovely staff convo

[Zizu]

don't usually post at such threads or anything but i totally agree with jones and kthx. Many features of some bots (such as accuracy % for example) are completely useless imo, and some bots are completely useless. (eventbot????) like Jones said twd/tw was much more enjoyable with simple bots and staff actually doing the stuff some bots do atm. if there's not enough staff to handle such things, go recruit more.

not gonna say shit about coding because i know as much about coding as pope knows about vaginas. im sure majority of the tw community just want things running smoothly without bots who can tell me the size of my dick.

read about 60% of this thread, tell me if im missing something

[Celly]

if maverick's sarcasm is backed by fact, and the bot server really is that skimpy on hardware, it's time to get serious about fund raising and donations. a server with a gig of ram isn't a server at all.

we (the public) need to know what hardware is currently in the server. we need to know if any parts can be re-used in the building of a new server. and once we know what parts are needed, we can set a budget and start working toward getting the money together.

everyone's tired of the (nearly) constant crashes. it's time to step up and drop down some dough. that's all there is to it.

Regardless of the problem why dont we start the fund raising or get serious abuout find a goal to try and get. Even if we get the problem fixed what is going to keep this problem from occuring again? Once the problem is fixed we would be able to have money to use for upgrades on server or for what ever we need most. I dont think its a question of if we should it should be a question of how quickly we can start... Get dat money..money...ya ya

[paradise!]

Did you even play when TWD was first launched? The first TWD season was the best out of every reset since then. There were over 100 squads on the TWDD ladder, and maybe 50 on both TWJD and TWBD ladder. The top competition was completely different, you actually had to be good to win a TWLD title then, not just be a good shark or whatever. TWD rarely crashed, Mythrandir did a great job.

Elim arenas HAD TO be made bigger because the arena was just too full. Sure there were many more people in the zone back then, but there was no need of a flashy GAME OVER after each round, there was no need of counting Accuracy of shots fired every odd second or whatever this bot is counting now. Elim was fine with Robo Ref, except fora small avg bug which was fixed.

This zone's problem is that every damn new guy who can code/create something wants to create something new and shitty to feel important while chasing away the core-members of the zone who just want a functional elim.

TWLD finals had 250 people in the arena, what do you think people want the most out of a zone? fishies version #214234?

Pubs, elims, duel, pracs, twd, twl -> go

This is the response from the people to staff.

I really want to here a reply to this post, as I believe it represents the thoughts of the majority here. will stay tuned. glad we've at least reached a point where we can discuss openly the problems with our server. Prior to this thread most of us hadn't a clue what was going on.

[Xog]

aye, it seems to me that the only "variable" is the new coding, TWD has been working fine before, so can't you just revert back to the bots + code that did work?

I think the coding might have changed so much that everything would have to be restarted, meaning squads would have to re-sign up and people would have to re-register and every single person would have to sign up to the roster, again. Unless the current settings could be imported to the old bots, I'm not sure. But I'm fairly certain there would be a massive change in the way things were done/updated on the TWD site, which would mean the site would have to be changed as well.

In any case, it would be a big decision to revert back to all the old settings, even just temporarily until the bots are fixed because it would probably be more work trying to change everything so the old bots can work rather than fix the current ones.

[Displaced]

aye, it seems to me that the only "variable" is the new coding, TWD has been working fine before, so can't you just revert back to the bots + code that did work?

[Jones]

You wouldn't like if bots were reverted back to old code as lots of functionality would go lost and most bots would be far more unstable then the current versions.

Did you even play when TWD was first launched? The first TWD season was the best out of every reset since then. There were over 100 squads on the TWDD ladder, and maybe 50 on both TWJD and TWBD ladder. The top competition was completely different, you actually had to be good to win a TWLD title then, not just be a good shark or whatever. TWD rarely crashed, Mythrandir did a great job.

Elim arenas HAD TO be made bigger because the arena was just too full. Sure there were many more people in the zone back then, but there was no need of a flashy GAME OVER after each round, there was no need of counting Accuracy of shots fired every odd second or whatever this bot is counting now. Elim was fine with Robo Ref, except fora small avg bug which was fixed.

This zone's problem is that every damn new guy who can code/create something wants to create something new and shitty to feel important while chasing away the core-members of the zone who just want a functional elim.

TWLD finals had 250 people in the arena, what do you think people want the most out of a zone? fishies version #214234?

Pubs, elims, duel, pracs, twd, twl -> go

[Da1andonly]

hey dock you singing beauty

when will you join the disoblige guys?

kudos

[Jones]

I think that this whole conversation can pretty much be brought down to we as a zone fucked ourselves, after bitching about the fact that there are too many bots being coded for every single stupid thing in TW it finally turns out that I was correct and now the zone has reached critical mass. Allowing shit like distension which was coded terrible to be brought over from the dev zone, or enigma, etc etc etc or any of the events that constantly crash bots and or the zone due to bad coding I am sure are partially to blame for this. I say just bug priitk for some old copies of roboref, some old copies of twbots, and just start from there and not let any jackass who says he is a coder go around making changes to twcore anymore.

+1

[Maverick]

There is no such thing as critical mass at play here.
A few bots that were made are of poor quality but those bots were needed (they wouldn't be created if they weren't needed). Almost always the bots added to the quality and functionality possible in the zone.

Distension wasn't shit and actually provided a complete new gameplay to many players. Unfortunately it was stretching the limits of the possibilities of the server. If you want to discuss this, reply in the distension topic.

You wouldn't like if bots were reverted back to old code as lots of functionality would go lost and most bots would be far more unstable then the current versions.

[kthx]

I think that this whole conversation can pretty much be brought down to we as a zone fucked ourselves, after bitching about the fact that there are too many bots being coded for every single stupid thing in TW it finally turns out that I was correct and now the zone has reached critical mass. Allowing shit like distension which was coded terrible to be brought over from the dev zone, or enigma, etc etc etc or any of the events that constantly crash bots and or the zone due to bad coding I am sure are partially to blame for this. I say just bug priitk for some old copies of roboref, some old copies of twbots, and just start from there and not let any jackass who says he is a coder go around making changes to twcore anymore.

[Maverick]

TWCore is down for now.

Bots are down again?

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

Updated see 1st post.