Discussion on HMS

[vaped]

About a year ago ktnx touched me inappropriately. Just wanted to air that out as well.

[With Ease]

I appreciate any input from (respected) players about some of our staff members. However some of your facts aren't right such as you saying that we recently recruited half of HMS personal chat into staff. Me and Ara recruit solely based on staff applications.

Perhaps 'recent' wasn't the best word to use. I meant the time in which HMS was dean of staff. It wasn't that hard to figure out in my opinion. This has nothing to do with you or Ara, so I would appreciate if you would stop putting words into my mouth.

On another note, this is like a year old, why didn't you speak out about this before? It's a bit late to start sturring things up about him, so unless you bring up something recent this can't be seriously looked at at the moment. I agree that some of the recent twd moves has been a bit shady and we will need to clarify some rules so people know if accepting/axing yourself and whatnot is considered illegal or not.

Again, by simply reading the thread you could see I already answered this. At the time the 'on the move' page was changed so that captains could see who recruited who / who promoted who. Me posting this now comes after months and months of witnessing people do what I did with no consequences (which I feel is the right move). I would just like to know why I was banned for 2 weeks by HMS and no one else is even subject to a warning. It is comical that you think this is not relevant now, as HMS is still a member of staff and the "QUALITY ASSURANCE SMOD." How can a quality assurance SMod ban me for 2 weeks just because he a grudge against me? Also, perhaps you missed the first paragraph stating that I would like this thread to bring in other peoples' experiences with HMS. Thanks for your response however.

[Turban]

I appreciate any input from (respected) players about some of our staff members. However some of your facts aren't right such as you saying that we recently recruited half of HMS personal chat into staff

i believe he meant when HMS was the dean, he pretty much recruited half of his chat.

and another half from fushas chat.

seriously.


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i mean it.

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not kidding, jorne!


why else would i be here? :fear:

[roxxkatt]

fushachat got hired because they were elite.
they just happened to be on the same chat.

lern2causuality plz

[Jason]

so what are you looking for in terms of a resolution, ease?

no way to forgive the year old ban. that ship has long since sailed.
it's really not feasible to have all these people get punished now, with twl on the verge of commencing.

you're only real recourse is to see hms axed. is this what you're getting at? why not just come right out and say it? instead you're hiding behind a thin guise of "but that's not fair!" and i don't really see the point in mincing words.

disclaimer: i have no comment either way as to hms's conduct. i wasn't around to witness any of it. i will say i don't understand his position now, though. QA Smod seems to be a manufactured title given to a guy who isn't expected to do much of anything.

[kthx]

Sure, lets get rid of HMS, and Ara and M_M and then we can all be happy.

[Jones]

I don't see why this even should be debatable whether it is illegal or not. It's not like people are bypassing the 24 hour hassle of !resetname.

[M_M God]

Then it was a mistake on my side, I thought u referred to the current staffers being recruited. Anyway, kthx, I wasn't even referring to you at all so I have no idea what you're even talking about. I'm just having a chat with Ease here and not with you at all so..no need to attack me like that.

[With Ease]

it's really not feasible to have all these people get punished now, with twl on the verge of commencing

There's no discussion over whether or not the players I listed should be punished. I absolutely don't think any of them should even be warned over something so trivial. I'm just saying that I got banned for something ridiculous like that only because HMS failed to remain impartial and got caught up in a personal vendetta against me. This is the very same guy in charge of Quality Assurance now, it is ridiculous.

you're only real recourse is to see hms axed. is this what you're getting at? why not just come right out and say it? instead you're hiding behind a thin guise of "but that's not fair!" and i don't really see the point in mincing words.

I practically said I wanted him axed, yes. My exact words were "This thread will also be used to discuss HMS' role in staff and whether or not the zone would be better off without him. " Not sure where you're getting "thats not fair" from. The first paragraph says this thread is meant to be a list of grievances against HMS with the ultimate goal of getting rid of him, albeit not said exactly in those words. I just wanted to see if anyone thinks he actually brings anything positive to the table. He brags about how many aspects of TW he's involved in while abusing his power and failing miserably at the only thing he didn't receive help on (BWC). Before you respond with "at least he's trying to help out" I should mention that I have said numerous times to TPTB that I would help out in the zone if HMS was removed.

[Jason]

heyooo i'm retarded. i read your entire post, cross my heart and hope to die, but i managed to miss the opening sentiment somehow.

back to the topic at hand, regardless of his past digressions, i have to strongly reiterate that i don't see him doing much of anything at present.

[Pressure Drop]

i dont really think it matters that this was a year ago it's not like he is young that a year will change his personality and a ban like that out of spite isn't a very good character reference for a Quality Assurance mod.


i dont care if he stays or goes, i've no personal grievance with Stargazer as i've had little personal dealings with him or indeed staff in general for staffing matters. However i've seen him make poor judgement calls and minorly abuse his powers or indulge in a personal grudge ... not with me but others. I've never rated him as a member off staff for that. i've also more recently heard 2 staffers on different chats complain about him and i respect their opinions so that makes me think no smoke without fire.



something i find VERY strange is i was going to link to a post i made about his abusing a zoner for a personal grudge which pissed me off and alot of ppl in spec too ... However this was in a BWC thread which noah started after HMS ballsed it up totally and the thread portrayed him in a bad light... So why have all the basing world cup threads been deleted ??? i mean wtf is up with that ...

[Vatican Assassin]

I applied for staff 2 weeks ago, so I guess I did not make it?

[Barton]

I applied for staff 2 weeks ago, so I guess I did not make it?

we are still voting, it takes some time...

[kthx]

I don't see any difference between this and Ara trying to ban me from the forums for "trolling", I mean if you want upperstaff to follow the rules and act professionally you should complain about it across the board not when it only affects you. So I will go ahead and say it, HMS shouldn't be doing this shit, and I guess I can say that because with all of the stupid shit that happens in staff now it isn't like it really matters because they all do stupid shit like this and aren't held accountable.

[Vatican Assassin]

stupid ass shit