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  • State of Trench Wars Staff

    As anyone who visits the forums at all knows, there have been many issues with staff lately. However, no action is taken, why is this? Are staff too busy with their pressing engagements in game, and just have yet to catch up with these cataloged concerns? Well I took it on myself to figure this out.

    I logged on the name tramcetunes to try to stir the pot and see what the deal is. Before you naysayers with the rule book copied to your clipboard come here, yes I absolutely broke the rules in full knowledge of doing so and accept the punishments handed to me. So don't bring that shit in here because I've got it out of the way.

    Anyway, as I said, I logged onto the name tramcetunes to try to get a staffer's attention. I do a help call asking if the pub map is permanent or something, a legitimate call because I don't like the map, but I really don't give a shit. My call was taken by H.M.S. and we chatted or whatever while he, as I knew he was, pulled my information to see who I was. He verbally warned me, and then issued me a moderator's warning to get off the name. At this point I figured I might as well get to the point of being on the name. I told HMS I would switch names straight away if he would just answer my question as to why I can log on an illegal name and get banned within 10 minutes, yet we can raise several threads of abuse that TT has committed and even have a petition raised with overwhelming support, yet we get absolutely no response. He gave me one more chance, I told him to answer my question, he banned me instead.

    That's fine, H.M.S. was justified in doing so, there is no dispute. He could have answered my question, I would have switched, but I can't really fault him for doing what he did. However, how can he answer the question when there is no logical explanation. I asked HMS why he didn't just do it, and he said "You didn't do it in the right way."

    Well then, what IS the right way? What does it take Tres? M_M God, what do we have to do? Because as I see it, we have made multiple threads outlining his abuse and overt trigger finger and we have gotten NO response at all. We have even made a petition that received OVERWHELMING support to get rid of him, and got NO response. So what is the right way? We have exhausted our resources that fall within the rules, so naturally I took it outside to get a reaction. So tres, m_m god, and anyone above them, what needs to be done for this to happen? He's abused many times, it's been proven, and the majority of trench wars does not want him. We aren't talking a 51-49 majority doesn't want him. At the time of the thread dying due to lack of action it was more like 75-25 at least.

    Staff, how do you expect us to want to donate to the game when, as an entity, you ignore our concerns until we break the rules, when suddenly we have your full attention? Why are you so gung ho to revive the game, yet you are so reluctant to do what needs to be done to revive the good image staff used to have, at the expense of the experience of many, many players? Why do you have a Quality Assurance that I go to when the game quality is tarnished by an abusing moderator, who is then forced to tell me that he can't really do anything because your authority overrides his?

    Tres, M_M God, we all want answers. We have done things your way within the rules to get a response, and now many of us have taken to breaking them to get your attention. Solve this problem before bad experiences like the ones we've had become commonplace and cause this zone to implode. We want your answers, we want the punishments if (when) they occur, and we want this public. We have a right to know what happens as a result of the concerns we've raised. "We'll talk to him" is not a legitimate punishment. If you refuse to do this, then it is clear trancetunes fails as a result of your failure, and we'll have to start finding replacement deans instead of one faggot mod.

    PS hms I appreciate what you tried to do, but I did have a job to do, same as you did. Hope you understand even though I know you neither agree nor approve.
    JAMAL> didn't think there was a worse shark than midoent but the_paul takes it



    turban> claus is the type of person that would eat shit just so you would have to smell his breath

    Originally posted by Ilya;n1135707
    the_paul: the worst guy, needs to go back to school, bad at his job, guido

  • #2
    TrannyTune> nah, tired of this faggot causing tons of problems, banning players for no reason other than to suit his insatiable thirst to prove he has power

    MAGI KOZ> then log off?

    TrannyTune> so you would rather players quit than fix a problem?

    SpaceHiker> We listen to the players, but we don't listen to you. Any idea why?

    TrannyTune> yeah obviously you don't listen to me, nice pub btw

    TrannyTune> It's this tired old routine of trying to protect one of your own instead of seeing that he is fucking up, and has been multiple times, for weeks on end

    TrannyTune> that makes people quit the zone

    MAGI KOZ> quit being a hypocrit

    TrannyTune> you say "why don't you just quit" while staff sits here asking us to buy pub bucks?

    TrannyTune> to raise money for advertising to get new players?

    TrannyTune> who is the hypocrit here?

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    I think these quotes pretty much outline the problem, it isn't just trancetunes that is the problem, its the entire "society" of staff that is the problem. Spacehiker sits here and says "nobody listens to you because you are a clown" to a player who has done quite a bit for the zone while magi koz tells me to quit after I played here for 8-10 years now instead of trying to discuss the situation reasonably. TW staff thinks it is above the player base instead of being here to serve the playerbase to make sure things run smoothly, that is the problem.
    Rabble Rabble Rabble

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    • #3
      And before anyone comes in here saying "Give tt a break he doesnt get paid." I realize this. Trance applied for a volunteer job and as such there are certain protocols that he needs to follow. If he doesn't follow these, he doesn't have the job, there are few things more cut and dry. Pay is irrelevant, you volunteer for duties then you do all of what these duties entail, you don't pick and choose.
      JAMAL> didn't think there was a worse shark than midoent but the_paul takes it



      turban> claus is the type of person that would eat shit just so you would have to smell his breath

      Originally posted by Ilya;n1135707
      the_paul: the worst guy, needs to go back to school, bad at his job, guido

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kthx View Post
        TrannyTune> nah, tired of this faggot causing tons of problems, banning players for no reason other than to suit his insatiable thirst to prove he has power

        MAGI KOZ> then log off?

        TrannyTune> so you would rather players quit than fix a problem?

        SpaceHiker> We listen to the players, but we don't listen to you. Any idea why?

        TrannyTune> yeah obviously you don't listen to me, nice pub btw

        TrannyTune> It's this tired old routine of trying to protect one of your own instead of seeing that he is fucking up, and has been multiple times, for weeks on end

        TrannyTune> that makes people quit the zone

        MAGI KOZ> quit being a hypocrit

        TrannyTune> you say "why don't you just quit" while staff sits here asking us to buy pub bucks?

        TrannyTune> to raise money for advertising to get new players?

        TrannyTune> who is the hypocrit here?

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        I think these quotes pretty much outline the problem, it isn't just trancetunes that is the problem, its the entire "society" of staff that is the problem. Spacehiker sits here and says "nobody listens to you because you are a clown" to a player who has done quite a bit for the zone while magi koz tells me to quit after I played here for 8-10 years now instead of trying to discuss the situation reasonably. TW staff thinks it is above the player base instead of being here to serve the playerbase to make sure things run smoothly, that is the problem.
        thanks for misquoting and leaving out other things from the chat. now let all the others take this in wrong and start bashing us as you see it and want it to. you're a part of this community, too.

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        • #5
          +1


          This was very well written and I hope staff actually takes a look at this. We protested peacefully with a petition, but if you keep ignoring us this Gandhi will turn into Che Guevara.
          1:Rasaq> i scrub really hard with toilet paper so little pieces of it get stuck to my anus hair and then later on when im watching tv i like to pull them out slowly because it feels pretty good

          1:Mutalisk> heard that n1111ga okyo got some DSLs

          Paradise> No names but there's actually a black man in the arena right now.

          Jones> MAAAAN1111GA UCHIHA

          Paradise> NO NAMES. NOT A SINGLE NAME.....but 3/6 of the players on Force are of a certain descent. I will not go any further.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MaGi kOz View Post
            thanks for misquoting and leaving out other things from the chat. now let all the others take this in wrong and start bashing us as you see it and want it to. you're a part of this community, too.
            I am sorry, did you not tell me to "log off" Magi Coz and did Spacehiker not tell me "we don't listen to clowns like you", I wasn't aware that posting quotes directly from the game was reason to say that something was misconstrued.

            Also, way to completely ignore the point of this thread and instead focus on the least important issue here.
            Rabble Rabble Rabble

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            • #7
              Magi there's a situation to address here. Either address it as a longtime staff member or take your feud elsewhere. These forums come with a built in private message system. Ty 4 this.
              JAMAL> didn't think there was a worse shark than midoent but the_paul takes it



              turban> claus is the type of person that would eat shit just so you would have to smell his breath

              Originally posted by Ilya;n1135707
              the_paul: the worst guy, needs to go back to school, bad at his job, guido

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              • #8
                kthx I'm glad you put at least one of the things I said in there. The quote from me that you pasted sums up the situation perfectly.

                We don't care about your guys' witch hunts and your personal vendettas and we aren't going to waste time with them.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by the_paul View Post
                  Magi there's a situation to address here. Either address it as a longtime staff member or take your feud elsewhere. These forums come with a built in private message system. Ty 4 this.
                  sorry dude but people logging on names like "Trannytunes" expecting staff to do what they want is destroying your message. He doesn't even know why I called him a hypocrit and why I think it would make us hypocrits if I even attempted to take him seriously.

                  Originally posted by kthx View Post
                  I am sorry, did you not tell me to "log off" Magi Coz and did Spacehiker not tell me "we don't listen to clowns like you", I wasn't aware that posting quotes directly from the game was reason to say that something was misconstrued.

                  Also, way to completely ignore the point of this thread and instead focus on the least important issue here.


                  And I meant to type "misleading" not "misquoting". Thanks again for pointing that out. I'll end this one from here on.

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                  • #10
                    Now explain to me how this is a witch hunt? Correct me if I'm wrong, which I'm not, but has trancetunes not been proven to have thrown out unjust bans on more than 1 occasion? There is evidence, so your witch hunt analogy is unfounded and frankly pretty unintelligent. Now Space, what better way is there to do this? You've seen the threads, you've seen the petition, whats left for us to do to get our point across.

                    Tell me spacehiker, what does it take?
                    JAMAL> didn't think there was a worse shark than midoent but the_paul takes it



                    turban> claus is the type of person that would eat shit just so you would have to smell his breath

                    Originally posted by Ilya;n1135707
                    the_paul: the worst guy, needs to go back to school, bad at his job, guido

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                    • #11
                      Well if thats the case Spacehiker why was TranceTunes reprimanded for abusing his powers less than two weeks ago? Obviously someone on staff thought that he wasn't doing a good job at this point and was told if I can remember correctly to basically stop abusing his powers to warn and ban people from this game? So tell me Spacehiker, if staff themselves found a problem with trancetunes behavior less than two weeks ago, and yet the same problems continue to happen how can you honestly sit here and call this a "witch hunt" and a "personal vendetta" when there is a history of abuse?

                      You would think as a logical person you would go back and research the allegations of abuse, look at the staff members record, and then come to a decision based on this instead of going on the defensive to protect one of your own.
                      Rabble Rabble Rabble

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MaGi kOz View Post
                        sorry dude but people logging on names like "Trannytunes" expecting staff to do what they want is destroying your message. He doesn't even know why I called him a hypocrit and why I think it would make us hypocrits if I even attempted to take him seriously. And I meant to type "misleading" not "misquoting". Thanks again for pointing that out. I'll end this one from here on.
                        It's sad that that's what it took to get your attention. If anything it supports our case more than hurts it. You ignore us when we do what you ask, and then pounce within minutes of a broken rule. What part of that seems OK to you?
                        JAMAL> didn't think there was a worse shark than midoent but the_paul takes it



                        turban> claus is the type of person that would eat shit just so you would have to smell his breath

                        Originally posted by Ilya;n1135707
                        the_paul: the worst guy, needs to go back to school, bad at his job, guido

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                        • #13
                          It's funny, just like in the game how 30 mods come to warn a player for racism but cheater calls go untaken in match games and help calls get taken by a useless bot who throws them a random useless PM, the same thing happens on these forums, make 30 threads saying how trancetunes is abusing and they get ignored but have someone get banned and call staff out for it and all the sudden 30 mods instantly spring into action to save face in the thread.
                          Rabble Rabble Rabble

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                          • #14
                            I think staff isn't being professional here. I also think staff are taking the players for granted. Some of us are not professional either, but the staff needs to stay professional in order for us to look up to them.

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                            • #15
                              Quote Originally Posted by trancE tunes
                              Hey everyone..as you guys may know ive been playing for quite a few years now..ive met alot of cool people and became friends with a few...one of the people i started becoming friends with was b@by girl...soon enough, we started talking more and more and we fell in love...or at least i know i did, and do believe that b@by girl loved me too...

                              recently my heart has been shattered because she told me that she is very busy and wants to slow things down...this is probably because i wont be able to see her for another few months...ill be moving to her state by then anyway...ive asked her to please stay strong through this as i am...and i really hope she does..we definitely will be very happy if we are together when i get to her state, california...get this..our very first phone conversation lasted 11+ hours straight!!

                              just know that we are definitely pretty compatible and we never really had a dull moment in all this time we knew eachother...

                              well lately she told me she doesnt want to keep falling in love with me because she is busy..and im guessing cause it hurts to love someone who isnt there physically just yet...while i am able to wait for her and have faith in her i dont know if she feels the same way...

                              im asking all of you...if you could..please help me on what to do...i am really in love with her and i know she has love for me...and we both know that we would be so happy together...should i just stop falling in love, move on, and when i get to california see if she wants to be with me? should i keep trying to stay in touch and help her stay strong in this with me?

                              p.s. if any of you see b@by girl please tell her tt still loves her and that she needs to stay strong and have faith!

                              -thanks everyone...i hope you all can give me some advice...and please...be nice...stay helpful...i truly appreciate it..and of course i would only ask my continuum crew for advice on this...i love continuum because you know there is always someone there to help ya out and be supportive..i hope you all can support me in this and tell her how much i love her!

                              Just letting staff know THIS is who they are trying to keep on staff.
                              Rabble Rabble Rabble

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