Resolution Limits

[M_M God]

I'll make sure this gets discussed and decided on for TWL/TWDT. TWD is another matter however.

[Crescent Seal]

why is TWD another matter? its what twl is based on, people qualify for twl through twd...so why keep a major difference like resolution between the two?

[Mobey]

People who play with higher-res in TWD are killing the competition off, too much variety.. you could have 3 guys on 1280x800 and 1 guy on 1910x1100 (or whatever it is) and that guy will be the one to get all the kills (take Pandora with LaSenza) being as that seems to be the lead example of all this.

Personally, I went from playing in TWD everyday to barely not playing at all. If people are going to quit the game because of a res limit then I would rather not play/compete with them. You wouldn't play StreetFighter with a dude who could move 2X as fast as you now come on?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for no-res limits in pub and events (including belim, wbduel, elim) but just keep the res-limit for all leagues.. that way it ensures a fairer, simpler and more competitive game in my opinion.

[rAiNbOw SeEkEr]

This has been talked about so much and every time there is an overwhelming support for a resolution limit, why hasn't it been implemented?

I'm usually playing on 1600x900 because I don't like playing with black rectangles on my screen (1440x900) but I'm willing to up the pixels if it forces players like lasenza off their cheating resolutions

[M_M God]

Because the TWD resolution limits were not decided and added by me nor can I change them. I believe it was a mutual decision of the TWD head op back then and our sysops.

[kthx]

Well, we have different twd ops and different sysops now, that is the worst reasoning and excuse I have ever heard M_M God.

I am pretty sure the original pub was the decision of the original TW creators.
I am pretty sure not being able to buy pub points with real money was the decision of the original TW creators.

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This is just a really lame cop out on staffs behalf, its obviously that players want a res cap so instead of wasting the energy trying to think up excuses spend that energy on doing what the players want for once.

[kthx]

And on top of that this "no resolution limit" was supposed to be a test, and the test just mysteriously never ended because staff doesn't seem to understand that a test would mean there would be an end to that test. I am also thinking that this "test" was added at the same time the poll was given out (which was zoned several times a day for weeks btw so everyone had a say on it) that clearly states that players want a res cap.

[Demonic]

OK: Res limits have been discussed now between myself and pred, also with a few players and squad caps, and its very much damned if you do, damned if you dont. Many want to keep, many want to revert back. I think overall: Native resolutions have come along in the past 10 years, to the point where they are higher then old res caps.
As such the following decision has been made:

TWD Res limits will stay as they are.

I know some of you will be happy with this, while others wont. However, this is the decision that has been made.

[Zeebu]

i think you could still push it back for twl qualifications only, but i guess its not overly necessary. now that we have so few squads, it really doesnt matter. you know which squads will make it in. seeding doesnt exist for just the qualifications.

[death row]

OK: Res limits have been discussed now between myself and pred, also with a few players and squad caps, and its very much damned if you do, damned if you dont. Many want to keep, many want to revert back. I think overall: Native resolutions have come along in the past 10 years, to the point where they are higher then old res caps.
As such the following decision has been made:

TWD Res limits will stay as they are.

I know some of you will be happy with this, while others wont. However, this is the decision that has been made.

I don't agree with the decision, but it is what it is. Perhaps later on you can re-evaluate this topic or take a legit poll on this. I believe majority votes should be more important than a select few individuals that want to keep it. Right or wrong?

[Demonic]

I don't agree with the decision, but it is what it is. Perhaps later on you can re-evaluate this topic or take a legit poll on this. I believe majority votes should be more important than a select few individuals that want to keep it. Right or wrong?

i think its important to constantly re-evaluate, the decision is for now, not a week down the line or next year etc.. Things constantly change drow as well you know. But i remember this arguments when ppl were playing on 800 by 600 and 1280 by 1024 was considered a good res, or when widescreens were used, and they were forced to drop down a res (1024 by something) so couldnt see as much as 1280 by 1024 people, and i think it will never go away no matter what happens.

[Scoop]

i think its important to constantly re-evaluate, the decision is for now, not a week down the line or next year etc.. Things constantly change drow as well you know. But i remember this arguments when ppl were playing on 800 by 600 and 1280 by 1024 was considered a good res, or when widescreens were used, and they were forced to drop down a res (1024 by something) so couldnt see as much as 1280 by 1024 people, and i think it will never go away no matter what happens.

JUST FYI:

I don't believe yall understand the impact that the no resolution limit has on the game. With 1280 1024 the warbird game has a great balance. The beautiful thing is that everyone has the same radar length, and the screen is the same for everyone. The competitiveness in TWLD has evolved directly from this. I think it is complete bullshit that you guys would go and shake this up this far down the line. How do you think it makes people feel that have been playing for years and mastered radar, midrange, close range ect? Take that newbie from pandora for example, because of yall striking down the rez limit, this kid goes and uses an ultra high resolution and is able to see people on his screen when to other people, he is on the edge of their radar. It gives him a huge advantage over everyone else. If you need proof, check the dudes twdd rec (its lasenza i think).

Demonic, I know you actually do play warbird some so I would expect you to realize that this is a colossal fuck up. But then again, yall seem to not even care.

[kthx]

I had these discussions with Demonic and Predator earlier today, thought some people might like to read them.

Also Predator and I agreed to make a poll and stick to the decision that people vote on.

[death row]

JUST FYI:

I don't believe yall understand the impact that the no resolution limit has on the game. With 1280 1024 the warbird game has a great balance. The beautiful thing is that everyone has the same radar length, and the screen is the same for everyone. The competitiveness in TWLD has evolved directly from this. I think it is complete bullshit that you guys would go and shake this up this far down the line. How do you think it makes people feel that have been playing for years and mastered radar, midrange, close range ect? Take that newbie from pandora for example, because of yall striking down the rez limit, this kid goes and uses an ultra high resolution and is able to see people on his screen when to other people, he is on the edge of their radar. It gives him a huge advantage over everyone else. If you need proof, check the dudes twdd rec (its lasenza i think).

Demonic, I know you actually do play warbird some so I would expect you to realize that this is a colossal fuck up. But then again, yall seem to not even care.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Like my previous post, I think there needs to be more of an emphasis on what the players want. Not people that are in position of power, a select few, making the ultimate decision. If the majority of the people took a poll, and wanted there to be higher resolution that is not league acceptable, then by all means, keep it. But I'm pretty confident that you will get the other answer.

Allow this kind of stuff in pub, let them use this res in pub. But in a competitive setting, where TWD determines who makes TWL and who doesn't, those players have to abide by the resolution rules already set forth. Again, I know you said the decision was made Demonic, I understand. But if you really take a step back and look at the situation, I know you see our point. That there needs to be an official poll that determines what's best for the players involved. If the game is dying, you don't want to make rash decisions based off a few people and not the majority. I mean, am I wrong on this thought process?

[Crescent Seal]

lol demonic? i have only seen you stick up for higher reso so far.....do you guys ever listen to majority?????? sick of this shit