Committee to permanently Change the Levithan to something not shitty

[Oops]

before i put too much thought into this ill just say that with old levi i used to LT or solo lev al lthe time, and now , i never do, for a few reasons. First, i dont have the money to buy superlev and without superlev your bomb is just garbage. If anythign is goign to be changed, make the levi bomb at least as strong as it was previously, fuck the ships speed. Actually thats like the only reason

[Maverick X+]

Well one of the reasons why it was changed was because of the strength of that bomb. The level 2 yeah its not racking up a lot of kills like it used to back in the day, but its a decent bombardment tool as it stands right now. If anything I was thinking if a Lev gets 50 bounty or more a bot can autoprize the level 3 to you.

LT's aren't that much of a problem anymore. I remember the days where i'm soloing on lev and just flying up the center was a death sentence, not from WBs coming up behind you, but from lt fags pegging you from the sides.

[Jones]

i remember when i was seriously pubbing i was like 12

thats it

[Maverick X+]

I'm debating on starting a new thread to talk about the main gripe i have with Levi... The repel lock...

[the_paul]

This ship is garbage and ruins all aspects of pubbing. Its a bitch to finally take base after a huge fight in mid and fr, only to get killed by some fuckhead who drives by and shoots a wall while you're in the middle of fr. It ruins the entire experience. Theres a reason, back when there were 2 pubs, that pure pub had 40 people and the levi enabled pub had 9. Just sayin.

[Maverick X+]

I dunno why its even called pure pub honestly, levs were unrestricted for years, if anything the locking of them makes it an unpure pub as its not the original settings. But thats another matter. What you're describing is what lev was designed to do. Its a game changer. It helps clear for big pushes into the fr, clears out weakened ships all the while being a sitting duck to every other ship in the game unless its well defended or in the hands of a skilled player.

[the_paul]

It's pure pub because the basing is pure and unaffected by this terrible ship. If the lev was designed to singlehandedly ruin pub games then perhaps my problem is with the original concept itself.

Sitting duck? A lev makes it to safe and some terr will suicide 3 times to green him, and then flies him around while he shoots walls. I'm sorry but you will never convince me that levi requires skill, because flying around on top of someone while your job is to shoot walls simply doesn't.

[Maverick X+]

lol do you even play pub anymore? levs dont even need to go to safe anymore but that isnt the point. Yes LT's ruin the basing experence, straight levs dont.

[the_paul]

Because having to go to safe was clearly the main point that my entire argument was built around, good catch. :busted:

[Maverick X+]

Ok, to throw this back on topic so far, some of the ideas have been implemented. (I.E. the bux for killing LT's, though i think that was already in place). Next is the lev itself. A small list to ungimp the lev.

Most players know me well in pub once again, at some points in the past (i think presently too now) there are times where they say "oh shit, Mav's in mid", and i've painted myself as a very annoying lev to kill, even to the X's. I must say when i get a decent escort, (and people who pay attention) myself in a lev is a force to be reckoned with even without superlev, so i know what i'm talking about for the most part here.

1) Repel Lock: First and foremost, This feature is by far the most damn annoying feature and from what i can tell, its been intentionally made even longer than it was in past incarnations on a lev. For those who doesn't know what i'm talking about, hop in a lev, fire a repel and hold down your guns or try using your 1 rocket. For nearly 3-4 full seconds you're practically dead in a water so whats even the point to even using a repel? Every other ship with repel access does not have a problem with this, they repel they are able to fire immediately afterwards. Why is it that levs are locked after defending themselves? Can this retarded feature finally be removed? Or can it be less drastic than 3-4 seconds because its retarded a WB can fire at you, you repel and by the time you can even get your rocket to fire you're already dead because they've recharged. The only time this isn't an issue it seems is when you're getting team-greened and even then its not 100% that it'll "unlock" you. Please fix this over anything else.

2) Who's bright idea was it to give levs a Single fire/Tri Fire cannon? Please switch it back to Dual/Quad fire. Its bad enough the speed of lev bullets are as slow as molasses but christ, give the lev a break. If you miss with your bomb you're dead (hell, if you close-bomb a ship with full energy you're dead too but that's another issue), but for your bullets to not even come close to what you're shooting at is a pain. If they insist on keeping it as a tri-fire, at least make it less wide than what it is now or give the bullets some more speed. They dont need to be super speed but they certainly dont need to be X/Terr speed.

I'm not out to make lev broken, just make it more survivable in which the 2 things listed above would do. Everything else on the lev can stay the same but in terms of survivability, the 2 items listed is what makes it a flying death tub.

[Maverick X+]

Ok, to throw this back on topic so far, some of the ideas have been implemented. (I.E. the bux for killing LT's, though i think that was already in place). Next is the lev itself. A small list to ungimp the lev.

Most players know me well in pub once again, at some points in the past (i think presently too now) there are times where they say "oh shit, Mav's in mid", and i've painted myself as a very annoying lev to kill, even to the X's. I must say when i get a decent escort, (and people who pay attention) myself in a lev is a force to be reckoned with even without superlev, so i know what i'm talking about for the most part here.

1) Repel Lock: First and foremost, This feature is by far the most damn annoying feature and from what i can tell, its been intentionally made even longer than it was in past incarnations on a lev. For those who doesn't know what i'm talking about, hop in a lev, fire a repel and hold down your guns or try using your 1 rocket. For nearly 3-4 full seconds you're practically dead in a water so whats even the point to even using a repel? Every other ship with repel access does not have a problem with this, they repel they are able to fire immediately afterwards. Why is it that levs are locked after defending themselves? Can this retarded feature finally be removed? Or can it be less drastic than 3-4 seconds because its retarded a WB can fire at you, you repel and by the time you can even get your rocket to fire you're already dead because they've recharged. The only time this isn't an issue it seems is when you're getting team-greened and even then its not 100% that it'll "unlock" you. Please fix this over anything else.

2) Who's bright idea was it to give levs a Single fire/Tri Fire cannon? Please switch it back to Dual/Quad fire. Its bad enough the speed of lev bullets are as slow as molasses but christ, give the lev a break. If you miss with your bomb you're dead (hell, if you close-bomb a ship with full energy you're dead too but that's another issue), but for your bullets to not even come close to what you're shooting at is a pain. If they insist on keeping it as a tri-fire, at least make it less wide than what it is now or give the bullets some more speed. They dont need to be super speed but they certainly dont need to be X/Terr speed.

I'm not out to make lev broken, just make it more survivable in which the 2 things listed above would do. Everything else on the lev can stay the same but in terms of survivability, the 2 items listed is what makes it a flying death tub.

blah, firefox settings screwed with paragraphs, fixed

[roxxkatt]

its called 'bomb delay' and 'double barrel'

[meddi]

Give levs 2500 energy again, and let me buy repels from the bot without delays, and increase the turn speed and regen rate while you're at it.

Balance problems fixed.

[Maverick X+]

Give levs 2500 energy again, and let me buy repels from the bot without delays, and increase the turn speed and regen rate while you're at it.

Balance problems fixed.

Lol as much as i would love this, that'll utterly break lev =/

[Zeebu]

if you do that and remove their ability to attach, you might have a ship