Pub cloakers are broken, please fix soon.

[Nockm]

willby is correct, there was nothing wrong with the weasel. Its he levs ruining pub

the rest...get skill and stop whining. Its just a hardly shooting weasel geesh.

Either a troll or someone who did not read the thread and therefore answer any of the points made. You're right about hardly shooting though, usually it only needs to shoot once during the flag capture (see first post). Thanks!

[bandcampgirl]

troll????? wtf im a legend in pub

the flag saving makes the game exciting. they should bring back the excitement the pwarp and strikebase commands gave too

[Nockm]

Thanks.

[Shaddowknight]

Weazel's size being changed (and nothing else)

problems it fixes: Weazel cant ez resettimer
Weazel team cant ruin basing from roof-terr
Weazel is less difficult to hit (you can get reps, and have stealth and rocket, thats plenty evasion)

Problems it causes:
whiny weazels


nope... cant think of anything else (sure im missing things, but the small size is the greatest unfair advantage they have)

[Wazzaaa.nl]

Weazel's size being changed (and nothing else)

problems it fixes: Weazel cant ez resettimer
Weazel team cant ruin basing from roof-terr
Weazel is less difficult to hit (you can get reps, and have stealth and rocket, thats plenty evasion)

Problems it causes:
whiny weazels


nope... cant think of anything else (sure im missing things, but the small size is the greatest unfair advantage they have)

Let them cloak and be small and shit..
Just make those warptiles in the little flagroom-holes, so they can't ruin basegames!
It's just too easy for an weasel to kill terriers in fr or get flag last 10 seconds..
This way the ship stays the same..
weasels happy
basers happy
everyone's happy

[roxxkatt]

sounds like weasel is a waste of a ship slot again

[2pac]

Solution



Cloak should be like shark when using cloak, slowly drains energy while ur using it.



Easily killed by a cloak with a rocket, you can remove that and have them buy it, rather than it come with one.

[Spock!]

Removing the rocket should help make some people happy.

I still think that a fat x with stealth is called for, imo.

[cookies]

As much as I hate to admit, fat x with stealth is better for pub than the current settings. X right now is ridiculously good, especially with custom keymap and macros.

[Spock!]

As much as I hate to admit, fat x with stealth is better for pub than the current settings. X right now is ridiculously good, especially with custom keymap and macros.

Hey, somebody actually agrees with me.

The Last time that happened was when was when I stated that a ball was round.

[WillBy]

Hi Spock, hi bcg. I still stand by all of my above statements, because "my opinion matters". Weasels are just considered OP because the good weasel players are all in pub (lacking a competitive weasel league, this is their home.) Or maybe I just continue to contradict you all for the sake of contradiction and im just spewing useless garbage arguments because in my mind, these are equally reputable and superior to your own.

[roxxkatt]

what would a wzl league look like?

[Spock!]

what would a wzl league look like?

LIKE SPOCK OWNAGE

[Vehicle]

I think the current weasel is fine. I look at it like this:

Strengths: Small size, rep, rocket, fast recharge and ability to shoot pretty quickly using single-fire if uncloaked, ability to own using !buy
Weaknesses: Very low energy, not very mobile, relatively slow bullets

On balance the current weasel is not overpowered because it dies to two L1 bullets or one L2. A pub team who is actually trying to proactively win a basing game will decimate a couple of weasels with simply a terr who calls out 'x,' a lancaster or even a halfway decent shark protecting the flag. There are 4 ships with x radar if I'm not mistaken and, so long as the terr calls 'x,' a flagroom full of players should be able to cope.

I have made a number of private freqs in pub with 1 terr and 3-4 weasels and have won pub games. But, the thing is, it takes forever (often over an hour.) I personally think this is a good thing. Pub games shouldn't last the 5-15 minutes they generally do, it gets boring because there is no competition. A good pub game for me is one that goes over 45 minutes where teams are seriously fighting for control of the flag and, yes, this often involves a couple lame flag claims from weasels. (As a side note I also think the pubbucks awards for long flag games are not worth the effort put in. If it were up to me, after 45 minutes the winning team should get +500 on top of what they currently earn, after an hour in a half it should be 1000.)

With that being said I'd be fine with a couple of solutions:
Go back to the old weasel. Otherwise just take away the weasels ability to !buy to eliminate lame !buy fullcharge's and !buy repel's. And don't change the actual weasel settings but lower it's ability to green reps (I can't remember if that's possible for an individual ship.)

[Spock!]

Go back to the old weasel. AMEN BROTHER. GIMME SOME STEALTH OWNAGE!

(I can't remember if that's possible for an individual ship.)
yes.....you can infact green repels.......

There is that.