TWD conglomerate squad

[Bukkake Surprise]

Mandatory health insurance, like mandatory car insurance, leads to corporations ripping people off and is always an abuse of power by the government, which is controlled by the corporations who stand to benefit. No government ever does anything for the benefit of the people it claims to represent.

I've never played any leagues, and I have no interest in them.

New players should always be able to choose what they want to do. Why the fuck would a complete noob want to be in a league, anyway? He doesn't even know what buttons to press to make the ship move.

[jim the chin]

Mandatory health insurance, like mandatory car insurance, leads to corporations ripping people off and is always an abuse of power by the government, which is controlled by the corporations who stand to benefit. No government ever does anything for the benefit of the people it claims to represent.

I've never played any leagues, and I have no interest in them.

New players should always be able to choose what they want to do. Why the fuck would a complete noob want to be in a league, anyway? He doesn't even know what buttons to press to make the ship move.

Exactly :thumbsup:. Though there was no need to address that god awful analogy.

[Zeebu]

MHz summed it up - the positives are real, valid benefits to implementing a new system. The negatives are literally nothing but arguments for the sake of argument.

jim the chin can ignore my absolutely valid post, but he obviously is unaware of my long reign on this forum as the king of needless and petulant argumentation. all of his warrants are in no way based in reality, and when asked to provide any sort of material claims to these warrants, he instead chooses to respond to the post where his bullshit isn't directly being called out.

take ur top off

[Morh]

When a player leaves his squad, he is automatically added to the big squad after a week (say) of squadlessness.

No thank you, I'm not in a twd squad and I never want to join one again. It have been years since I cared about twd or twl, so why would I want to be forced to join some shit squad?

[Crescent Seal]

thread title keeps reminding me of this song

[MHz]

No thank you, I'm not in a twd squad and I never want to join one again. It have been years since I cared about twd or twl, so why would I want to be forced to join some shit squad?

Dry your tears, Bono.

1) Don't fret, I doubt the squad would be as shit as Wingmasters. (Your words, not mine.)
2) You wouldn't be forced to join any squad, it would be your TWD status. Tagging the squad and joining chat are optional.
3) To appease the crusty duvet contingent, perhaps an "Opt Out" tickbox could be implemented.

[zidane]

I can confirm that morh is insanely emo/bad. he played a jd with me on dark about 4 years ago, negged badly and rage quit / haven't seen him play a match since

[Jones]

zidane is an expert in knowing about players. he only needs to play one (1) jd to get all the necessary details about you

also, wingmasters was awesome when we beat thunder with like 13 people on the roster who knew each other irl

[Morh]

Dry your tears, Bono.

1) Don't fret, I doubt the squad would be as shit as Wingmasters. (Your words, not mine.)
2) You wouldn't be forced to join any squad, it would be your TWD status. Tagging the squad and joining chat are optional.
3) To appease the crusty duvet contingent, perhaps an "Opt Out" tickbox could be implemented.

Like a new player would know about, or care about, what their twd status is. So they would not join your pro squad anyways, making this whole idea useless.

I can confirm that morh is insanely emo/bad. he played a jd with me on dark about 4 years ago, negged badly and rage quit / haven't seen him play a match since

That sounds like me.

[Jerome Scuggs]

So much like the current GOP position on Obamacare we are going to ignore the problem and destroy TW because implementing a new system for getting new players fast-tracked into competitive leagues would destroy TW

because there's an imaginary group of people who are SUBSPACE TEA PARTIERS and starting pre-registered on a squad is INTERNET HITLERISM

but all the people i see in twd arenas begging to be added, wanting to play with a squad, and being ignored by superior, elite veterans such as myself - these must be the "evil socialist freeloaders" so let's ignore all these real, valid desires to get engaged in TW without having to overcome a serious newb-veteran gap and instead focus on the imaginary problems of ORWELLIAN IP TRACKING and FASCISTIC SQUADMONGERING

[Izor]

Again, unlike Obamacare in the real world, this might actually work in TW. My only concern is people might not ?squadjoin regardless of what squad theyre thrown in

[Ephemeral]

The analogy does support the fact that you can’t really mandate humans to always ‘do the right thing’.

If a lot of us got someone we know to try the installing SS, if a lot of us didn’t flame, spam, kill macro and otherwise hassle newer players, if a lot of us would be willing to play on squads with newer players and try to help them, it would help a lot with propping up the sagging population.
But IMO mandating new squads with auto-assigned players in them would only be helpful if you have leaders in each squad who drive the sqaud forward.
eph

[Godzero]

I'm probably the most recent person in this thread to try TWD after being a full-time pubber for years. So maybe I can throw in my two cents since it is still pretty fresh in my head.

Hmmm, what was the main thing that changed me from a full-time pubber???

Lets see what was it ...

- Coddling new players (who have played more than a day) by pretending like pub should be their whole world (you can't run out of lives there!)

- Remaining uninformed about the biggest hook the game has to offer (TWD/TWL) that the tutorial couldn't really ever do justice. (you gotta exp it) and acting like giving them the opportunity is to try it right away is Cancer

- Feeling like the only option for making friends is by talking to Tower or Hellokitty. (or all those riveting, high-brow conversations you see there)

- Thinking the games ultimate skill/challenges only involve killing/using/running from LT's (bc they're always in pub)

- Wondering how fast I can uninstall the game just because I was given an opportunity to try something new when I'm already new. (we all did it once)


Oh wait ... it was NONE of those things.
I stopped doing the "pub-only" thing when I finally learned about/was accepted onto/experienced being on a squad and TWD. After that I logged onto the game more, talked in chat more, played a million squad duels, tried all the other arenas, and was encouraged to try ships I was more uncomfortable with (and now love), but most of all it was a fun learning experience.
(AND even though I went 0-10 (or close) in all my squadduels ... I didn't uninstall the game, completely the opposite.)


Maybe this would also a fantastic new way for the new players to make friends, and actually enjoy the community. (probably would have quit by now if that didn't happen)

Consider this: they wouldn't just be a random new player who enters the game (and first talks to staff for the basics) then is murdered by twenty 15-yr vets (about 1000x in a row) as they spam pubbux/EXTREMELY disconcerting macros at them until their "esc" and "q" keys are weighed down by the sheer volume of their tears. (sounds SO much better than their cap offering a "gj" after they go 2-10 in twd doesn't it?)

NOO!! They would KNOW that if they logged in again (bc it would be explained) ... they would be part of a TEAM, with their very own captain whom they could easily ask absolutely anything!! (no more begging strangers for help) There would be a sense of belonging, awe/wonder for TWD/TWL, learning from a vet, and all their new/future friends organized onto a team/chat all tidily laid out for them from the get-go.

[jim the chin]

they would be part of a TEAM of newbs, with their very own captain who wouldn't be good enough to stop them getting raped 10-0 over and over again in league. There would be a sense of despondency, disdain for TWD/TWL, condescending instructions from a vet, and all the people they're forced to talk to organized onto a team/chat all tidily laid out for them from the get-go.

Corrected for errors. Anyway, I'm sure your experience was fine and dandy, but you sound like one of those born-again nutbags who thinks everyone should be forced into the same whackjob cult they're in.

[Godzero]

Corrected for errors. Anyway, I'm sure your experience was fine and dandy, but you sound like one of those born-again nutbags who thinks everyone should be forced into the same whackjob cult they're in.

oh YOU!!!!! <3