TW Public Relations

[roxxkatt]

an update:

that thread was asking for things like pictures for steam page, and it got deleted by a staffer covering their ass because they dont want to be axed, as they are currently in the process of fucking up the steam effort.
they have already registered their personal name and bank account information as the owner of the game and are refusing to add graphics they did not personally make, and are removing access to anyone that disagrees.
lets see how long this post lasts before it gets deleted as well.

[KrynetiX]

He's referring to me. I considered allowing cheese to help with the steam effort but quickly realized he's more destructive than constructive and, he's unable to work with a team. While I applaud cheese/roxxkatt for his skills (when he works on projects solo) I cannot in good faith bring him on-board a community project. He makes rash decisions and is immature and vindictive (as seen above) when he doesn't get his way.

[roxxkatt]

yes, posting a thread asking for pictures is quite "destructive" and leaving you unnamed is quite "vindictive"
i agree

[roxxkatt]

nice job with your sertifi tier ass covering though

how much longer will tw players allow important things to happen with the public being deliberately kept in the dark?
why do people tolerate this?


noone has even said why azov got axed yet btw

[roxxkatt]

here i am about to make a "rash decision"

[5:10:44 PM] roxxkatt .:right now am looking into creating access groups
[5:10:44 PM] roxxkatt .: so you can stop giving away your password to people
[5:10:44 PM] KrynetiX: yea I made sysop but didn't set any permissions
[5:10:57 PM] KrynetiX: i didn't give pw to anyone
[5:11:04 PM] roxxkatt .: what im wondering is
[5:11:16 PM] roxxkatt .: why is "Jesse Steigerwalt" at the top of the page
[5:11:30 PM] roxxkatt .: and then "Signed in as roxxkatt"
[5:12:23 PM] KrynetiX: because i'm the 'company'
[5:12:42 PM] roxxkatt .: why on earth would you make that the company name
[5:12:56 PM] roxxkatt .: plus didnt we talk about this already
[5:13:01 PM] KrynetiX: because it required either a company or individual
[5:13:15 PM] roxxkatt .: what happened to "Continuum Oversight Commitee" or whatever it was
[5:13:28 PM] KrynetiX: it would need to be a real company
[5:13:38 PM] roxxkatt .: sign up as an individual with that name then
[5:13:42 PM] roxxkatt .: sigh
[5:13:45 PM] KrynetiX: no
[5:13:56 PM] KrynetiX: it needs the tax id
[5:13:59 PM] KrynetiX: or company
[5:13:59 PM] KrynetiX: of*
[5:14:07 PM] KrynetiX: can't just put whatever you want in
[5:14:37 PM] KrynetiX: i had to confirm identity with social security number AND bank account
[5:14:51 PM] KrynetiX: it will want the same for a company, and ask for a registered company tax ID
[5:14:55 PM] KrynetiX: and company banking info
[5:16:01 PM] roxxkatt .: why not set up a paypal account for this express purpose
[5:16:15 PM] KrynetiX: because paypal isn't an option
[5:16:34 PM] roxxkatt .: well it looks like we can change it later
[5:16:40 PM] KrynetiX: ya
[5:16:49 PM] KrynetiX: but if we don't use my name we have to setup an LLC
[5:17:26 PM] roxxkatt .: we will need to address this before we release any donation thing or cosmetic dlc option
[5:17:45 PM] roxxkatt .: which we can use to pay for development and server operator costs
[5:23:21 PM] roxxkatt .: and id prefer it be a nonprofit
[5:24:05 PM] roxxkatt .: nonprofit llc would mean that worst case scenario priit/bde tries some shit, noone gets hurt
[5:24:12 PM] KrynetiX: yea
[5:24:23 PM] roxxkatt .: nonprofit also means no tax
[5:24:33 PM] roxxkatt .: and no loss
[5:25:03 PM] roxxkatt .: and if a shitbag like sertifi somehow makes it into a group of importance, they cant steal or make money
[5:25:42 PM] roxxkatt .: Q. Do you pay us on amounts, net of taxes?

A. We pay you based on Net Revenues which is Gross Revenues less Applicable Adjustments. Gross Revenues includes VAT and sales tax, if applicable.
[5:40:05 PM] roxxkatt .: i wonder what the purpose of these groups are
[5:40:10 PM] roxxkatt .: since you can only set perms per user
[5:40:15 PM] roxxkatt .: and not as a group
[5:43:10 PM] roxxkatt .: also u should read this: https://partner.steamgames.com/documentation/steampipe
[5:43:19 PM] roxxkatt .: as this is the install + run process
[5:43:20 PM] roxxkatt .: i think
[5:58:58 PM] KrynetiX: yea i did read that
[5:59:13 PM] KrynetiX: i even thought i made an installer
[5:59:29 PM] KrynetiX: it downloaded the continuum/ files
[5:59:47 PM] KrynetiX: but i couldn't figure out how to get it to launch after install
[6:19:26 PM] roxxkatt .: http://forums.subspace.tw/showthread...t-and-pictures
[6:29:11 PM] roxxkatt .: in your icon with the multiple sizes, can you go through and remove the horrible circle you added
[6:29:35 PM] KrynetiX: ya
[6:30:27 PM] KrynetiX: deleted that thread
[6:30:30 PM] KrynetiX: we can't announce yet
[6:30:43 PM] KrynetiX: and i'd be axed if it came from you
[6:34:17 PM] KrynetiX: my account is locked for 15 min
[6:34:21 PM] KrynetiX: delete ur thread
[6:35:45 PM] KrynetiX: hurry plz
[6:37:11 PM] KrynetiX: i already have all photos/screenshgots/videos/everything
[6:37:22 PM] KrynetiX: delete that thread ill get axed
[6:41:28 PM] KrynetiX: fuuuuck
[6:41:36 PM] roxxkatt .: ?
[6:41:43 PM] roxxkatt .: whats the problem
[6:42:18 PM] KrynetiX: i got flack from other sysops when i posted steam got greenlit on facebook
[6:42:25 PM] KrynetiX: they get pissed off and always want meetings before things
[6:42:32 PM] KrynetiX: and your not popular
[6:42:46 PM] KrynetiX: i'd be axed
[6:42:47 PM] KrynetiX: period
[6:42:50 PM] roxxkatt .: they have had 4 meetings according to turban
[6:43:03 PM] roxxkatt .: i will edit to remove liability
[6:43:22 PM] KrynetiX: yea but this is a huge step and they will logon and say "wtf nobody told me anything about this"
[6:43:57 PM] KrynetiX: i took forums down until my 15 min login lock is up
[6:44:15 PM] KrynetiX: you can't post anything about it
[6:44:49 PM] KrynetiX: and we don't need all that, just a simple release to steam. i already have all the assets
[6:46:30 PM] KrynetiX: public announcements that are not directy by them or approved by them is like the biggest no no
[6:47:10 PM] KrynetiX: its stupid but i -will- get fired
[6:48:25 PM] KrynetiX: and i don't feel like going rogue yet
[6:50:02 PM] roxxkatt .: edited things for zero liability
[6:50:04 PM] roxxkatt .: relax
[6:50:20 PM] roxxkatt .: and its not an announcement
[6:50:31 PM] roxxkatt .: just asking for pictures and things
[6:50:46 PM] KrynetiX: ialready have all that
[6:51:00 PM] KrynetiX: im making all the images, already said above
[6:51:05 PM] KrynetiX: just wanted you to make installer
[6:52:16 PM] KrynetiX: i deleted it
[6:52:41 PM] roxxkatt .: thanks for telling me to save the text instead of being a complete paranoid asshole
[6:53:02 PM] roxxkatt .: i just love wasting my time
[6:53:12 PM] KrynetiX: i don't like being fied
[6:53:14 PM] KrynetiX: fired
[6:53:40 PM] roxxkatt .: there was nothing in that thread that could have been used against you or even to identify you
[6:54:07 PM] KrynetiX: m_m> why is cheese posting about steam asking for material for the steam store etc
[6:54:36 PM] roxxkatt .: because i already have more than three times

and saying you are going to make all the images prevents anyone else from doing so, and their work might be far better than yours
[6:55:13 PM] KrynetiX: that's how i'm doing it
[6:55:42 PM] KrynetiX: maybe we'll ask for better ones down the road but for now we're just getting an installer to work and i'm giving it a default look
[6:56:05 PM] roxxkatt .: so now i have to figure out how to get post data from my browser because you cant be assed to tell someone you are deleting something that other people have to waste their time on
[6:56:35 PM] roxxkatt .: and clearly you deleted it without reading it
[6:56:48 PM] roxxkatt .: because you also missed the part about not releasing a half assed incomplete product
[6:57:38 PM] KrynetiX: just forget about it
[7:30:41 PM] roxxkatt .: good now i dont have to waste even more of my time
[7:30:41 PM] roxxkatt .: any reason there is "Unaffiliated" at the top of my screen when i try to upload header images
[7:31:01 PM] roxxkatt .: or did you axe me without even telling me
[7:31:04 PM] KrynetiX: i asked you to do 1 thing
[7:31:35 PM] roxxkatt .: and i complied
[7:31:37 PM] KrynetiX: i said i was working on the gfx/store
[7:31:44 PM] roxxkatt .: yeah and fuck everyone else
[7:31:46 PM] roxxkatt .: amirite
[7:31:55 PM] KrynetiX: so why are you starting a thread asking for store gfx and why are you trying to upload a header img
[7:32:05 PM] roxxkatt .: because your unilateral decisions are great amirite
[7:32:19 PM] KrynetiX: no because i'm working for a dictotatorship myselfg
[7:32:31 PM] KrynetiX: if i was actually in charge i wouldn't care
[7:32:43 PM] roxxkatt .: in that case i will set myself against you and inform turban and mm
[7:32:49 PM] roxxkatt .: enjoy
[7:32:57 PM] KrynetiX: (y)
[7:34:07 PM] KrynetiX: clearly i made the right decision
[7:34:20 PM] KrynetiX: ya vindictive mofo
[7:34:37 PM] roxxkatt .: yep, going behind people's back is always the right decision
[7:34:40 PM] roxxkatt .: i agree
[7:35:14 PM] KrynetiX: i removed you from the project because you weren't following protocol
[7:35:20 PM] KrynetiX: set by higher ups than myself
[7:35:27 PM] KrynetiX: that will get me axed
[7:35:43 PM] KrynetiX: if not followed
[7:36:31 PM] KrynetiX: there's a meeting tomorrow to address public statement and you went and did it without saying a word first
[7:36:47 PM] roxxkatt .: if thats the story you are making up, ok
[7:37:02 PM] KrynetiX: meeting is tomorrow ...
[7:37:07 PM] KrynetiX: not making anything up
[7:37:35 PM] roxxkatt .: unfortunately i again was convieniently not informed and have plans
[7:37:54 PM] KrynetiX: not informed what and have plans for what?
[7:38:05 PM] KrynetiX: i asked for help with 1 thing
[7:38:09 PM] KrynetiX: installer script
[7:38:45 PM] KrynetiX: go ahead, be vindictive, tell m_m turban whatever you want "omg kryn asked me for help then took away my access"
[7:39:03 PM] KrynetiX: if anything they'll be pissed off that i even gave you access to begin with
[7:40:38 PM] roxxkatt .: long story short you have no idea what you are doing
[7:42:47 PM] KrynetiX: long story short i asked you for help and you were not following protocol
[7:42:59 PM] KrynetiX: and i have no need to delete that public relations post, doesn't matter
[7:42:59 PM] roxxkatt .: because asking people for pictures is quite a sin
[7:43:15 PM] roxxkatt .: especially since i have done it 5 times in the past
[7:43:53 PM] KrynetiX: i'm not working on anything with you anymore at all, simply because of the way you're being incredibly immature and vindictive right now
[7:43:56 PM] roxxkatt .: i suppose the only difference between you and me is that i can put 100% of my work in complete view of the public 100% of the time
[7:44:17 PM] roxxkatt .: yeah, i am being immature of deleting other peoples work and wasting their time
[7:44:19 PM] roxxkatt .: to save my own ass
[7:44:28 PM] roxxkatt .: yep
[7:44:45 PM] roxxkatt .: its me being immature of preventing other peoples work being included in a public project
[7:44:48 PM] roxxkatt .: i agree
[7:46:41 PM] roxxkatt .: and now that im gone there will be noone to stop you from uploading a train wreck of a batch file to steam

heres those "destructive" pictures:

http://imgur.com/vtfwDY1 http://imgur.com/CUYtYIk http://imgur.com/kk4FhqI http://imgur.com/vKxh06Z http://imgur.com/wqW7fqn

[roxxkatt]

heres that "destructive" forum thread he deleted:

continuum steam store page text and pictures


as you probably know, steam has greenlit continuum.
the continuum steam store page is here:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=144913037

we need to move forward with steam
because fuck meetings and not getting anything done


the description is currently a placeholder and needs to be changed.

as indicated in https://trello.com/c/r2VtqHFf
in this thread, write some text you want included in the game description.
be advised that the text must pertain to the entire game and not just trench wars.


we need youtube videos

as indicated in https://trello.com/c/PkD8CDdd
in this thread, put links to youtube videos you want associated with the game.


we need logos and pictures n shit

as indicated in https://trello.com/c/0psd1RGE
we need eye catching pictures to be used in steam store lists and featured store items and other things
we need pictures that will make people actually want to download the game.
open photoshop, mspaint, whatever i dont give a fuck and make something.
upload to imgur or something and put links in this thread.


we need bitchin screenshots of everything ss has to offer

as indicated in https://trello.com/c/vFFb7xrl
got screenshots of 999 bombs and explosions n shit?
just got a 20fer in fr?
shrap everywhere?
prove it
upload to imgur or something and put links in this thread.


that way the guy with the steam account can get shit done quickly and not upload a half assed incomplete product to steam







asked a developer friend for specific steam picture info

picture info:

Header image
460 x 215
Design: This image should focus on the branding of your product. For best results, please use the same artwork that you use for any retail box or marketing and make sure the logo is clearly legible.
Usage: It will appear at the top of your page in the store, in the 'recommended for you' section, in 'grid view' in customers libraries in the Steam client, in browse views on Big Picture mode, and for daily deals if applicable.
Sizes: Please provide '460px x 215px' . A '292px x 136px' image will be automatically generated from this.

Small capsule image
231 x 87
Design: These are small, so for best results focus on making the logo clearly legible.
Usage: These are used for all the lists throughout Steam. Search results, top-sellers, new releases, etc.
Sizes: 120x45 and 184x69 capsules are automatically generated from uploading the 231x87 version.

Large capsule image
467 x 181
Design: These should be designed to market the product.
Usage: These appear at the top of genre and publisher pages and occasionally on special promotional pages.

Main capsule image
616 x 353
Design: These should be designed to market the product.
Usage: These appear at the top of the front page.

Page Background
1004 x 626
Design: This should be ambient so as not to compete with the content on the page.
Usage: This is the image that appears in the background of your store page.

[roxxkatt]

additionally, i will be saving a copy of all text involved in case he tries to continue his sertifi tier faggotry

work in the public eye or go fuck yourself

[roxxkatt]

any attempts to delete your faggotry will be met with more threads created here an on other forums you have no access to

[KrynetiX]

Clearly my biggest mistake was asking for your help in the first place. I used to defend you but now I see what everyone warned me about.

And why would I delete the above? You're showing everyone exactly why I cut you off the project. The only thing I'm going to get heat for is including you in the first place.

[roxxkatt]

and normally i would edit my posts together, but this guy cant even edit a forums theme without breaking it
but we want him working alone with steam and secretly for some reason instead

[roxxkatt]

Clearly my biggest mistake was asking for your help in the first place. I used to defend you but now I see what everyone warned me about.

And why would I delete the above? You're showing everyone exactly why I cut you off the project. The only thing I'm going to get heat for is including you in the first place.

only thing i am showing everyone is your lack of capacity to work honestly and attempts to discredit people that point out your flaws
but sertifi, creemy, and dezmond warned you about that didnt they
congratulations on joining that list

[KrynetiX]

My posts show that I do include the public. And I fixed the forums. This is pointless. I'll answer for my bad judgement of letting you near the project in the first place -- but this discussion is over. You're vindictive and hostile when things don't go exactly your way.

If we engaged in this type of behavior this community would never get anywhere.. The Steam project is too important to allow petty disputes like this to disrupt progress.

To the players: Stay tuned for more information about Continuum on Steam.

[roxxkatt]

final word: guy is willing to stab someone he has worked with for months in the back over a thread he didnt even bother reading before he deleted it

[Turban]

looks like this one snowballed way out of control.

[roxxkatt]

that tends to happen when people are allowed to be dishonestly secretly doing things behind the scenes completely out of the public view