TW Public Relations

[2pac]

make godzero the fcuking pub relations

[Leland]

Move big weight though, winnebago
Remind me of Dego, and Jose Canseco

[Godzero]

I realize this is a dead thread PJ is bumping and Azov seems to be already not in staff anymore,
but since part of this thread had to do with staff relations/transparency ... (and is the most recent one from what I can tell)

I was just wondering why whenever the staff has a meeting or does something important if there couldn't be a dedicated thread where the entire transcript was posted for ALL of them.
That way there are no secrets. How hard would that even be to do?
You could have a staff member whose SOLE purpose was just to do only that

What's more, you could invite general public members to staff meetings (mute them if you HAVE to), then they could see it all first-hand.
If the person was trusted enough to not troll the public chat after a while, maybe even invite them to staff chat channel.



If you aren't even willing to do the first thing I suggested, (let alone all of it)
how else will the community ever stop thinking there are shady "goings-on" that you don't want us to know about?
This is what transparency would actually look like. Not posting a thread long after the fact, when you already weighed two decisions AND already executed one of them.

[Pearl Jam]

Public relations? Sign me the fuck up. I'll need 3 huge signs I can wear that say something to the effect of:

"TRENCH WARS!!! TITTIE$!!!"
"Trench Wars: COME PLAY THE GAME EVERYONE LOVES! And by everyone, we mean the 97 people that still play it."
"Trench Wars: We don't mean to be super confusing right off the bat, but this is a space-themed game. I know, I know...you may think this is some sort of WWI-esque first-person shooter based on seeing the words "trench" and "wars", but it isn't. So get in a trench and get shooting! Again, by 'get in a trench' we may create an account, log in and come play this spaceship game."

Also, I'll need a javelin suit (similar in style to one of those banana suits, except, you know, the subspace ship instead of a fucking banana) so I can dance in various middle-class and low-income areas. Oh, and I need to be able to spin the signs.

You're welcome.

[Bukkake Surprise]

Azov is no longer a mod now? That's great, if it's true. He was a complete fuck-up.

[roxxkatt]

interesting how all your projects fail when you exclude people who actually get anything done isnt it

[LF]

Lots of good stuff here.

+1 Azov gone (I love being right)
+1 Not including cheese in anything that actually matters
+1 Seemingly making forward progress
-1 Communication still sucks unless it is pried from your mouths like a bad molar
+1 Cres made an appearance in this thread

Mostly good things. Keep it up

[Bukkake Surprise]

How do you make it more "fun"?

[roxxkatt]

it's more like those stickers on the back of dump trucks that say "NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR CRACKED WINDSHIELDS"

like the fuck you aren't bitch, tell it to the court

or "fasdasdgdf dingledoink"

[Fork]

+1 Wormhole.

And Krynetix rambling about the new players...hahaha...we have been getting new players all along - they just don't stay. What will make them stick around now?

Make pub more fun already and people will stick to it. Its those inactive times that is killing this game. No new player will be insane enough to enjoy pub with 1-4 players spawning each other but staff already know this. Who's in charge of pub??? Lol

[Bukkake Surprise]

+1 Wormhole.

And Krynetix rambling about the new players...hahaha...we have been getting new players all along - they just don't stay. What will make them stick around now?

[Jerome Scuggs]

Why would you believe that Priitk's Continuum EULA has any legal standing when every indication points to Continuum being illegal? That's like pointing to quotes in the Bible to prove the existence of God.

It would be great if Priitk miraculously got the rights to clone Subspace, but it's very unlikely.

it's more like those stickers on the back of dump trucks that say "NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR CRACKED WINDSHIELDS"

like the fuck you aren't bitch, tell it to the court

[Wormhole Surfer]

Why would you believe that Priitk's Continuum EULA has any legal standing when every indication points to Continuum being illegal? That's like pointing to quotes in the Bible to prove the existence of God.

It would be great if Priitk miraculously got the rights to clone Subspace, but it's very unlikely.

[KrynetiX]

...it isn't a problem

Most players are excited. Steam can (potentially) give Continuum a lot of persistent exposure..

Existing, retired and MIA players alike will pop their heads in just to see what's up.
While a steady flow of curious, new players will consistently log-in to sample the goods.

Consistency is an especially attractive quality, as it will almost guarantee multiple daily users browsing the games directory for something fun and free to play.

A steady flow of players is exactly what we need to not only stay alive but bring life back to Continuum..

In any case .... if either Steam or Priit decides to pull the plug -- they can. It's not like anyone is being defiant.
Sure, Trench Wars will be out $100 but that was worth the users lured into downloading from the Greenlight page.
(Not to mention the retired players that resurfaced just to see what was going on.)

If you think it's illegal, then the logical place to look is Continuum's own EULA:

1. GRANT OF LIMITED LICENCE. You, the end user, are hereby granted a limited licence to make use of this product for your personal enjoyment on any type or number of computers or game platforms to play on a game network. This LICENCE is transferable, and you may freely distribute this product as long as all files from the original distribution are included, unchanged and unmodified, including this LICENCE.

This means users may freely distribute Continuum on Steam's "gaming platform", as long as the client isn't modified -- and we do not have to modify the client..

Further yet, despite already knowing it's perfectly legal - we are still sending emails to Priit, still going over Steam's and Continuum's licenses,
we're still carrying out honest & open discourse with Steam's representatives - and still being open about our intentions so that anyone (Steam, Priit, Virgin, BDE) who might contest may do so now..

...and although we can comfortably assume after years of research, networking, investigating and campaigning, that this is perfectly legal and perfectly reasonable -- we're still making sure that nobody gets into any kind of trouble as a result of our actions.

I hope that clears the air for anyone who feels like there's a big mystery, or anyone who's feeling upset and assuming Continuum can never be on Steam.
Many players feel like the project is being deliberately kept secret but it's quite the opposite. There's just not much to say, as there's just not much to it.

Boasting Continuum on Steam is much like posting a link to Continuum's installer on a (very) popular mainstream gaming website/directory.

Nobody should be confused. I've said from the get-go that it's technologically and legally possible to package Continuum for Steam. I quoted Continuum's EULA a number of times and stated clearly that we're good-to-go on pretty much all fronts -- but it would be best to give Priit (and everyone/anyone else) a chance to speak up if there are any issues we overlooked.

We're waiting .. to A: give Priit a reasonable amount of time and to B: give ourselves time to triple (and quadruple) check the legalities to assure nobody gets in trouble.
The last thing I want to see is a volunteer developer of this community getting in trouble just by trying to help.

Enough said. We'll continue to openly discuss this......

[KrynetiX]

I'm almost sensing....anger?

No doubt they take legal matters seriously. They're a huge corporation. They're not just going to let Joe Shmoe package and submit Minecraft, link up his bank account and say "Yea, forward all payments to me now it's mine now pay me." ..

What kind of agreement do you think we signed, what do you think we're doing? You're sort of implying that I (personally) or that WE (as a community or just TW) are digging through the client, pulling out Priit's licenses and replacing them with our own - professing ourselves the owners.

What we're doing is not much more than posting a link to getcontinuum.com on a large gaming website.