lancasters

[Spiderex]

an antiwarp would ruin a lot of chances that the attacking team has. Prolly a third of all assaults on the flagroom r based on a terrier planting a portal inside the base and then warping there.
Antiwarp is not needed in tw pubs.

[poop juice]

Originally posted by Madmaster
Anti-warp already exists in pubs.
Can be bought as an upgrade to the spiders.

[Spiderex]

keywords: bought, spider

Most people dont even know ?buy command or just dont wanna waste points cuz: a) they are fraying, b) they will know they will get killed quickly anyway

There is a dramatic difference between items u initially own and the ones u buy

[Mandagorian]

When will this shit end.

First the whining and moaning starts with lev terrs, although I do agree the lev terr needs to be changed but you can't whine about every ship setting in Trench Wars. This isin't a democracy, we do not vote on the settings or implement new ones when a few people want to come to the forums and rant about them.

Please do one of the following.

a)Leave Trench Wars, no one will care.
b)Accept the settings that have been there before you started playing.
c)Convince one of the Zone Operators that your changes would benifit us all.

[Randedl]

Originally posted by Spiderex
u dont see the main purpose of the ships. lets have a review

1) wb - dueler, for open spaces

2) jav - baser, for inside the flagroom

3) spider - multipurpose actually

4) levi - mass destruction, fits in everywhere on a terr except big open spaces

5) terr - baser, for delivering the troops

6) x - i'm not sure

7) lanc - baser, for inside the whole base AND for open spaces

8) shark - baser, nuf said

i'm not quite sure who you are, but it is very obvious you just made these up on your own. . .

also, don't give anti-warp as a prize when you spawn, you'd just end up having the spawn area covered by anti and basing would suck, lancs are fun to duel in (against other lancs) as they take alot of skill to actually kill anybody, but they are fairly useless in base unless you are one of those "charge the base as fast as possible ppl".

i don't really know what would make them better, maybe an l2 mine or somethin, dunno

[Madmaster]

Anti is only needed (often not even then) when you are LT-hunting.
Based on this I can say that the reason we do not se it as an green or as a upgrade that follows with the ships, is that it would destroy basing. It is also thats why it is expensive to buy.
To make sure that no one will misuse it.

[Da1andonly]

The lancaster is one of the best ships.

[PhaithDzyne]

someone should ban him from the forums for making to much dumb posts. then we could all b happy til another loser comes along and starts this shit again.

[Mootland Farmer]

Lanc4Ever.
As Black Alpha said, people just dunno how to use the lancaster effectivly. Lancasters are used for hit and run attacks, and I wouldn't call the lancaster the 'newb' ship. Why do you see half a pub wbs? Because thats the easiest ship to use.

[!cER]

The Lanc is underpowered if you compare it to a wb.

The wb is faster, has a higher rate of rotation, recharges more quickly, duds less often, faster bullets, better acceleration and has a higher max energy.

The ONLY advanage of a lanc is its multi which, as its shots are so slow, are easy to doge unless very well placed.

A wb should ALWAYS beat a lanc 1on1 in open space or in base. A jav would lose in open space, but might be ablew to win in base, idont really know.A spider should almost always win, but ive never tried against a really good spider :P

Giving a lanc anti would really affect basing, so i dont think that is a good idea, and x-radar was fun, but not very helpful (does anyone know why it disappeared?)

Lancs are regarded as a newb ship because the best way to play well as a lanc is to vulch or use 'lame' shots such as down the main tube.

[Jeansi]

Originally posted by Sassarai
how bout level 1 bouncing bombs?

Why level one? If the lanc would have to be changed, I'd like to see the L2 bullet damage decreased and then make it bounce, without multifire. Bouncing bullets over all is a thing I would want to see in TW, just don't know in what way.

[Spiderex]

Originally posted by Randedl
i'm not quite sure who you are, but it is very obvious you just made these up on your own. . .

I am Spiderex, hear me roar!

Would u like to share with the world why exactly my observations r made up? I don't see any mistakes in my ships analysis.

[poop juice]

your observations are correct except that the wb can also be used in basing as a terrier killer. the weasel can also be used in basing to take over if the opponent's terr is stupid

[Savageee]

I'd just like to start off by saying, anyone who calls any ship a newb ship should slap themselves. I am willing to bet I can beat almost everyone who posted something along those lines in a lance when they are in a wb 1v1 open space. ?message me or pm me sometime and I'll duel you.

Lances have slow bullets? That is why you fly towards your target and turbo just before you shoot. Sure it requires more planning in advance on where your target is going to be but deal with it.

Lances recharge slow? That is why you take your time lining up your shot, you should watch them on radar for a few seconds to see what kind of flying they are doing and you can usually figure out where they are going to be when you shoot.

Lances Rotate slow? Don't let someone rush behind you then you won’t need to try and spin around fast.

Lances Accelerate slow? Use your thrusters for a second or two to get up to speed or bounce off a rock.

Lances can't thruster good? That’s why you only use thrusts in short bursts, to dodge for example.

There are some problems with the lance though,

1) Generally people target the lance; go lance in any ship elim and you'll notice people fire at you allot more then when you’re a wb.

2) When you do miss or do kill someone Warbirds can easily turbo behind you and shoot.

3) There is nothing to encourage people to be a better Lancaster since they don't really have anything to compete in.

The way I think lances could be a fun ship is to allow them to twdd. That way you will have team members to back you up when they all target you or when someone tries to turbo behind you. Check the twd forum for that one idea that was posted about this.

I by no means think I am some awesome Lancaster, I just know some of the basics and I can do just about as good in a lance as I can in a warbird.. Well not really but if I played the lance as much as I played the warbird it would be even.

The lancaster is one of the best ships.

[Fit of Rage]

This thread is devoid of intelligence.

Lancs are fine the way they are. I use them to screw around and have fun in pub.

Oh, and Worr's right. Nothing more need be said.