TWD update - Resolution caps have been removed in TWDD/DD2 !

[2pac]

u really telling me to stop crying when you have spent the last 5 months trying to get unbanned? u done mudafka? the fact is that it gives an unfair advantage and therefore it needs to be capped. we have a restriction on lag as well and for a reason so why remove cap restrictions? it makes no sense to lift the cap for twd then place it again for twl. learn to play on the normal limits. its a fukin 2d spaceship game...u dont need to hook it up to your big screen and try to cheat yourself to victory.

and for the record i can play on 1920 x 1200 but i choose not to. ball the fuk up.

I was banned unfairly and you know dis so yeah I'm gonna bitch about it. If u can't handle the res cap don't play bro its not 1999 we don't gotta play on small ass laptop screens we upgraded and you should too I'm sure u can find ppl sellin laptops for bigger res or bigger LCD monitors..

[Turban]

pretty sure vast majority of old players would still use 1280x1024 even if they have higher resolutions available. i've recently been trying out 1920x1080+ and to be honest, i don't like it at all. bet a lot of people are like me.

switching back to 1280x1024 windowed.

[Zizzo]

Best change for years!

For everyone who is against this; do you know how easy it really is to bypass the resolution limit without getting caught? Is that what you are actually doing and don't want other to have it too?

[Fork]

Best change for years!

For everyone who is against this; do you know how easy it really is to bypass the resolution limit without getting caught? Is that what you are actually doing and don't want other to have it too?

Ouch if the resolution goes restricted again- this bug ^ needs fixing and Zizzo needs to speak with dev regarding how this is possible.

[Zizzo]

The bug is in Continuum and I really doubt PriitK is going to fix it

[Rule]

Increasing res does nothing for the overall issue which should be worked on - creating a TWD league where players actually have something to compete for during the 8 month offseason of TWL. It's been suggested a number of times - that a TWD Cup - tournaments etc are needed.

As for the res increase, I am neutral on it - if I was actively playing leagues I would still play with the same res I have used for last 15 years. If its found that res provides a significant advantage then it should not be applied to TWL.

[up in ya !!]

I to want new and exciting ways for Trench Wars to breathe fire again! Yes the Res Limits have been done, every weapons tweak and ship adjustment have been done as well. The Development teams worked like crazy to get us home again. And the whole DDOS attack made us think and regroup, I think we are stronger for it. Keep in mind that any new change of this magnitude will take many hours of code work and fixing the bugs that you devoted players always seem to find.

The proposal Demonic put forward is tried and tested in the gaming world and it works. Take a look. >><HERE
After reading your comments and talking to you in game, I am not sure if this is who we are as Trench Wars players.
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Please take a look at this direction.

Including TWD War bird - Javelin - Spider UN lockable ships, Life time cumulative points for squads and players, leaving you the freedom to play with your friends on any squads that will have you.

This proposal will reward players win or lose, but rewards more for winning.
As players win and accumulate personal points a percentage will also go to their squad point total.
Your total only goes up, and the more you play the more points you get that can go towards players and the ships they fly.
Award points for winners in hosted events.
Each round you play, you get a set amount of points just for playing. If you win, you get double.
Add more items to the !buy list.
Double XP Events for everyone that participates.
These will display along side ?usage data and keeps a lifetime earned tally.
For example: Medals and graphix to customize TWD player profiles and squad pages. Season total - MVP point total.
?usage tells you nothing, league points will let you gauge who actually plays more than others, along with Player/Squad W/L activity charts.
Move to other squads and those points go with you. Squad points reset each season.
Secret Unlockable ships that become yours to use in TWD when you reach a lifetime point levels twjd twsd and twdd have unused ships that will become usable in game and will display in your TWD web profile so everyone knows what ship your flying.
In-game recognition leader boards and splash screen with High Score tally.
Real prizes for special events point races. E- Gift cards


Rating point system
Squad points:
TWJD/DD/SD/FD, win 2-0: 3 points
TWJD/DD/SD/FD, win 2-1: 2 points
TWJD/DD/SD/FD, Lose 1-2: 1 point
TWBD, win >+5 minutes: 5 points (Win by more than 5 minutes)
TWBD, win <+5 minutes: 3 points
TWBD, lose <5 minutes: 1 point


Player points (only given for full rounds/games played):
TWJD/DD/SD/FD, win any round: 3 points
TWJD/DD/SD/FD, lose any round: 1 point
TWBD win a game: 3 points
TWBD lose a game: 1 point



Keep the ideas flowing and let us know. We all have to take this journey together if its going to work out in the end,
Thank you.

[roxxkatt]

thats not how u post links in forums bro

[2pac]

thats not how you troll in forums bro

[Ricko]

Up In ya semi-stealing my TWL points system idea, but it could work....personally I quite enjoy the rating system we have now that if you beat a higher rated squad you get more rating than beating a lower ranked squad, but then if you look at sport league tables every team gets a set amount of points for who ever they play.

If we brought in a more standardised points system TWL qualification would definitely have to be changed as a squad could play the worst squad 20 times in a row to gain maximum points to make TWL qualification where as the current system still requires a team to beat top squads to actually gather a decent amount of points (although given we have reduced TWD activity almost every squad makes TWL anyway). Outside of TWL qualification I see no harm in standardising points in TWD though as it promotes squad activity.

I'd like to see 'lifetime stats' for players alongside 'current squad stats' - it would be a good way to see player improvement (if a player had life stats of 1200 kills to 1500 deaths in dd but his current squad his stats were 200-100 it would show he's got a hell of a lot better). I can only assume these stats wouldn't be too hard for us to implement on to the TWD site?

[2pac]

People won't play the zone if they can't play on the resolution they are used to. If I was new and a zone forced me to play a certin res I wouldn't want to play again.

[olde]

I think the res limit should stay as it was, its unfair that I have to vs ppl with 1920x1080reso when i'm playing on 1366x768 its basically legal CHEATING.... Let me tell u how much fun its gonna be chasing ppl around who know they have a much higher reso then you they can just stay off my screen the whole time while im stuck radaring. I feel like if you are interested in playing twdd you should train your self on the legal reso. But hey make the game even lamer.. thx OLDE.....

[Lofty]

I think it's a great idea to let the res be free. I know this has been gone over countless times about pros and cons etc etc, but as I've said before and as the LD finals proved, serious matches are always going to be conservative in play style, causing players to just mid-longshot. That's what Fierce and Pandora did (round 1 for example), except with a higher resolution a new level of depth is added, where you have to practice peripheral vision for aim at a greater distance, and players actually have to focus on relying on team strategy to get people out instead of strafing madly and shooting at blue dots hoping the undodgeable-at-current-res-limit bullets don't hit you, which is mostly the only safe way to play serious matches these days. Most players prefer mid-range or close combat, and wouldn't 'abuse the stray game' as so many people keep claiming. A lot of people have too much trouble aiming at such far distances.

Instead of the popular belief that raising res would limit the playstyles, the real issue is that the res cap is what is limiting play styles, and I'm not even talking about the lack of stray fest games. The limit with res cap is that it really only allows for two viable play styles in serious TWDD/TWLD matches - either strafing around the enemy midshooting only when you figure there isn't a stray or shot flying towards you which would force you into an undodgeable scenario, or vulching people. If you do the former with a team, then eventually as blue dots disappear you can start moving in as a team for closer 5v3 5v2 etc kills. With how limited the vision of bullets is, it's impossible to utilize any other strategies. On the other hand, with res limits raised in twdd3/twdd4, I can actually focus on comfortably shooting and teamwork to outplay the opposition. I know I'd play TWD/TWL actively if res cap was finally removed, whereas I know a lot of players like vys and myself won't really play much due to it.

People seem to think everyone would jump on the longshot bandwagon with res limit removed, but the truth is that that style takes too much patience and aim skill. Most players simply do not have that kind of patience, especially having played so long, and will simply use the higher res for more comfortable - and more importantly - safer midshot games. This is proven by taking a look at matches in dd3 or dd4, or even just the matches that have been going on since the res limit increase till May 8th. Even right now you can see proof of it in ?go twdd, or twdd2. Do you see teams opposite corners of the map shooting at one another? Of course not..players already have a style in mind they usually play and this will help them do it more comfortably. As for the 'rare players' that have the patience for some kind of super longshot game res limit abuse, well honestly they are going to abuse their patience regardless of if you give them a res limit or not, and if they end up playing such a conservative style then it will most likely just hinder the whole team's performance and make the matchup closer to 4v5 than bring any positive value out of it, unless the whole team played like that, and like I said there has been no proof of that in dd3/4 or even in dd1/2 with the temporary res increase.

[Jones]

removing roster-limits would bring in a lot of pros, for sure. however, the bad thing about it is that it would eventually force everyone to use (atleast) 1920x1080 or similar in order to be able to compete on a high-level.

i'd say we let staff collect data at this point, then see if it's worth it. (are newbies more active with it? are good players still using 1280x1024? etc.) if twld keeps the res-limit then i don't see the point in keeping it unrestricted unless there are some positive feedback on the questions i stated before.

[Exalt]

Absolutely ridiculous and stupid. I have a new laptop, that can go much higher than the 1200x1028 res limit we "used" to have, but that didn't mean I ever played on higher res limits. It's retarded. The game was NOT made to have unrestricted resolutions. It was not made so that you can see the entire map on your screen at once. That's why there is a radar screen. This is stupid, but once again, top staff members fuck up the game as much as they can due to peer pressure from whining faggots that claim they won't play the game again without unrestricted resolutions.

The saddest part is that nobody plays better on higher res limits except straying newbs with no skill. Then again, that's pretty much all the players that are left in this game. You've managed to alienate a lot of people in a lot of different ways over the last year. Why not add some more things to piss people off and divide the community? Awesome.

I think the res limit should stay as it was, its unfair that I have to vs ppl with 1920x1080reso when i'm playing on 1366x768 its basically legal CHEATING.... Let me tell u how much fun its gonna be chasing ppl around who know they have a much higher reso then you they can just stay off my screen the whole time while im stuck radaring. I feel like if you are interested in playing twdd you should train your self on the legal reso. But hey make the game even lamer.. thx OLDE.....

Well of course it is cheating. This game was great because it didn't matter what type of computer you had, how fast it was, how big your monitor was, what $ you had to spend on things like that... it was all skill because everything was equal for everyone. Staff have effectively removed that now, due to a small minority that bitched everyday. We also have a bunch of staff members that were never good at this game, never played in any elite competition, play public if they play at all, and don't give a fuck about the core veterans that keep this game alive. That is why there are always nobody newbies who get hired into staff. Those are the people who run this game into the ground. Trenchwars staff, everybody!!!


Who decided this was a good idea, and why was nobody asked for their opinions before you jackasses decided to make such a huge change in the game???? What right do you think you faggots have to destroy the game that isn't yours? It is as much mine as it is yours, beyond the fact that you were promotted to some top staff position and have a power trip over a 20 year old game? How do you think you are helping this game by making such drastic changes, and who did you consult before making these ignorant moves? Did you ask anyone, or did you think you are "helping" grow the community with such a stupid mistake? This will make even more veterans quit. I hope your pubbers will keep this game going, because they were never the reason this game stayed alive and never will be. People that stick to pub always quit eventually, because pub isn't challenging, and there is no competition to keep them playing. Did you ask the TWD community about this change before you made it? Of course you didnt, because nobody on staff plays TWD. You are all pubbers and people who don't play at all. You sit in spec and act important. Congratulations on proving once again that staff cannot be trusted with any responsibilities whatsoever. This is why the council was made, to protect the players from idiots like you staff members who don't have the game's best interest at heart. You think making changes for the sake of change is a good thing. It isn't. You've clearly not thought about the reason this game is special, and you've effectively destroyed that. I hope you're proud of this stupid change you've made.

Btw, if no res limit was a popular move, you'd have seen MANY more games played in TWD3/TWD4 where you already had no res limit in place. There were almost NO games ever played there. You've caved in to a small minority of players, and the vast majority either didn't give a shit either way or didn't want it in the first place. How the fuck do you justify this? Honestly?

Is this seriously the best the zone can do, rehash the same fucking stupid things once every three years by some idiot who thinks hes doing the zone a favor or coming up with some kind of original idea or plan to make x thing more active or better?
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Exactly. Up in Ya!!! what the fuck do you do as head TWD op? You could've made a million different changes to TWD to make it BETTER, but instead of doing absolutely anything in all your time in that position, you do nothing except now, and you picked the absolute dumbest, worst, irresponsible change you ever could've made. How the fuck are you in that position? Who the fuck did you ask when deciding this was a good idea? Did you ever check the history of things before you made such an ignorant move? Are you THAT fucking useless that you didn't do a single fucking thing in TWD whatsoever until now, and now you picked the absolute stupidest idea you could have out of the millions of different possibilities? Fucking ridiculous is what this is. Absolutely inexcusably irresponsible as well.

You ASK what people think AFTER you made the change? Are you fucking stupid????

If older players feel resolution caps are necessary they will join twdd3+ instead.

If anyone thought this was necessary, you'd have seen a lot more games played in TWDD3/TWDD4 in the past. Nobody ever played in those arenas. Ever. I played one game there in the entire time it was set up that way, and nobody liked it. Only one person used a higher resolution than 1280x1024 as well, and it was a fucking newbie who did it. He went negative, and sucked badly. Either way, nobody ever played games in those arenas, and there was a reason to that. Apparently, TWD Ops don't like to use their heads and don't pay attention to things like that. Clearly staff are run by a bunch of brainless fools.