Lowering Lag Limit

[Cig Smoke]

ALmost all sharks who thrust in front of someone and lay a mine while being shot looks laggy, even if its moot w/ 400+ ping or urself w/ say 100 ping. Like Moot said, and pointed out there are downfalls. I also played w/ the lag and u do have to rep like 2 secounds early, and guess when to do things jsut bc of the lag, If ur terr, ur team constantly gets attach killed even tho nothing is hitting u, not to mention, if Im laggin, and im j umpy on ur screen, that means ur probably jumpy on my screen as well. Im not saying higher or lower the limits, but i am saying that again it isnt all bread and butter for the laggers like ur making it sound. It takes time and practice to learn how to play with lag, its like learning SS all over again.

[Stabwound]

Who gives a shit if it's hard for the laggers to play? It ruins the game for the people with good connections, so fuck them.

[Mootland Farmer]

Then I guess Spastic should be out of TWLB Stab.

[Hannes]

You people are lag racists :eek: :eek:

[Dim]

This is probably the most silliest reply i have ever made..but.

Surely if someone pays more for Cable than the 56k'rs pay for dialup. The cable guys should have more right than the 56kers.

[Cig Smoke]

In general that makes sence dimmy, but some ppl just simply cant get cable in there area. I know i couldnt until about a year ago, b4 that all tha twas around was 1-2 dialup services, and they both laged really bad.

[Stabwound]

Originally posted by Mootland Farmer
Then I guess Spastic should be out of TWLB Stab.

No one on Spastic lags as much as you do.

[bloodzombie]

Originally posted by Hannes
i quess i have to start defending the laggers

1. Laggers usually dont like the lagging part in the game, getting specced is a pain in the ass.

2. Making lag limits more strict is just silly, more and more people would notice that sometimes, lag is not just up to you and more about isp/routers.

3. More people getting pissed at this -> riots -> war -> destruction.. ok that went a bit over but anyways

4. Thanks, leave a little money for the "Save the LAGers" fund.

Whether laggers like it or not really doesn't matter. the fact remains that when bombs and bullets appear in the middle of nowhere, and people bounce all over the screen, the game becomes pointless. it's just luck at that point. For the game to make sense, and be an actual measure of skill (isn't that what leagues are supposed to be for?) you need a reasonable limit on the lag.

[bloodzombie]

I just wanted to point out that I don't really care about the lag limit in twd, my opinions are targetted towards TWL which is supposed to be the highest level of competition in tw.

[Sufficient]

Here's another idea dealing with lag. Increase the "timeout" period when someone who is lagging gets specced. So increase the penalty of lag by making the player who gets specced, have to wait 15 sec or whatever (I dunno where the currect setting for this stands ... is it 10 secs?). This would allow the laggy players or players with bad connections to still play, but the team would have to decide if it's worth putting him/her in ... and having the "powerplay" like situation with a man/woman down.

Basically increase that sitout time.

[bloodzombie]

That's a pretty good idea, but then the argument comes in the form of "how long should they sit out". 30 seconds sounds fair to me.

[Nethila]

thats a good idea, but there is a downside for it.

it punishes those who lag, but it also punished those who only occationally got a spike, lets say from a pop-up msg window or something.

[Bosshawk]

it is an interesting thought

but again hehe

that game we had with Hirluin playing, no one could see his shots, he would disappear on the screen and re-show up again...

yet he never lagged out once...even though we all saw his pings over 400-500 on client to client


sure space lagged out, but that was because his isp was dropping his connection lol not becuase of lag....


problem is that lag will never be resolved, and will always be unfair to someone.....
:eek:

[bloodzombie]

Originally posted by Nethila
thats a good idea, but there is a downside for it.

it punishes those who lag, but it also punished those who only occationally got a spike, lets say from a pop-up msg window or something.

I don't see the problem with this. if it's rare, they'll rarely get punished, most games they'll be fine.

[lunch3]

bah, ur squad lagged so bad yesterday. Both jav and shark bombs did what you said happened with Hirl. Every ship jumped from place to place on my screen. My lag was unusually high though, 250ms, all other things normal, think maybe tw servers were lagging that day, many were complaining. Some said I ate, but lag had worse effect on me in that I had to guess where to aim in order to get hits. So this is confirmation that ur lag contributed to Hirl's bomb warping. If you don't want this happening again make sure you are not lagging, because even if your enemy lags the worst, it will not be as bad in both these games unless there is considerable lag on both sides.