TWDT 30 Regular Season results and addressing controversy of 3-way tie for 5th/6th

[Dwopple]

Hooooooooooooo boy. TWDT Season 30 regular season has concluded. Big shoutout to all Captains and players for sticking it out and competing until the very end. In true Trench Wars fashion, we've found ourselves within the grips of another controversy thanks to a 3-way tie between Thunder, Legendary & Power.

To clarify, our decade+ copy / pasted rules address tiebreaks as follows...

For purposes of tiebreak for seeds #1/2 and for determining which teams make the playoffs, the overall head-to-head record will be taken into account across all three leagues between the tied teams.

According to the rules as written (and passed on for the last 10+ years), as well as past-precedence in how I've been involved (4.5+ years) handling tiebreaks... this looks at overall h2h W/L, without resetting h2h after a tiebreak has been established. Meaning, this makes Thunder the #5 seed, and Legendary the #6 seed.

Official TWDT Playoff Standings

1. Pure Luck (Tiny)
2. dicE (Cape)
3. Ambush (saiyan)
4. Terrorist (dreamwin)
5. Thunder (Ease)
6. Legendary (BOMBED)

One-time Play-in

That said, the rule itself is, in my opinion, illogical and unfair and will be rewritten for future TWDTs to include resetting the h2h W/L comparison after each tiebreak is established. In the future, this would make Power the #6 seed, leaving Legendary to #7. However, in the spirit of fairness and after discussion with other ops, the following "play-in" resolution will be used this one-time only.

Legendary, by rule, is the #6 seed. The next-best, non-playoff team per division will be granted a bo1 play-in vs Legendary before QF games on Sunday, March 16th.

TWDT-D:
(#6) Legendary vs Cloud (next-best, non-playoff)

TWDT-J:
(#6) Legendary vs Power (next-best)

TWDT-B:
(#6) Legendary vs Power (next-best)

Quarter-finals

After the play-in matches, traditionally-seeded QFs will be played as-scheduled and as per the existing rules (more details to follow as an update to this post... wanted to address the controversy first)



Update #1: Corrected a mistake saying PL & dicE received a bye in all 3 divisions. They do not. #1 and #2 teams in each division receive the bye.

[Tiny]

The gray area involves the power and legendary and how one might interpret the rules of who wins the tiebreaker. In no way should any other team be in any of these play in games besides power and legendary. Cloud lost every single tiebreaker it was involved in.

if it was my team outside the line, I guarantee I would not be let in.

[Ekk0]

The gray area involves the power and legendary and how one might interpret the rules of who wins the tiebreaker. In no way should any other team be in any of these play in games besides power and legendary. Cloud lost every single tiebreaker it was involved in.

if it was my team outside the line, I guarantee I would not be let in.

Bro we let you Terr at 7.5 to make TWDT history with an undefeated regular base season, so do you really believe that?

I think this is an awesome decision, it rewards and give chances to many teams and is technically an 8 team playoff.

The rules were unclear so they were up for interpretation and decision by the ops this time.

Moving forward we will have more clarity in rules regarding tiebreak situations.

Great decision Dwopple and thank you for all the time and effort you have put into volunteering for the zone! <3

[saiyan]

Tiny is right

[Tiny]

Changes like this also require captain votes in the past. Interpreting tie breakers should be up to the ops, which is fine. Changing the rules mid season to incorporate eliminated teams should be a vote of caps, and this is setting a precedent.

[Ekk0]

Changes like this also require captain votes in the past. Interpreting tie breakers should be up to the ops, which is fine. Changing the rules mid season to incorporate eliminated teams should be a vote of caps, and this is setting a precedent.

We are not changing any rules. The existing rules were not clear and could be interpreted in one of many ways in this decision. As such the Ops reviewed and discussed potential resolutions and agreed on this.

Additionally as no decision was made/posted at the time of this announcement, no team was technically eliminated at time of posting.

I apologize on behalf of the Ops for the unclear rules, moving forward there will be much more clarity written in regarding tiebreak situations.

Thank you for stepping up to be our 9th captain btw.<3

[Tiny]

You’re welcome.

and yes, you are changing rules. There is no misinterpreting that prime and cloud are and were eliminated by every interpretation of any and all tie breaker rules set forth in any season. You are adding cloud arbitrarily to the playoffs to add “hype”. Stop pissing on us and calling it rain.

I will be happy with you saying, “we changed the rules in our Op meeting and didn’t consult the captains about a mid-season/end season rule change.”

thank you

[Ekk0]

You’re welcome.

and yes, you are changing rules. There is no misinterpreting that prime and cloud are and were eliminated by every interpretation of any and all tie breaker rules set forth in any season. You are adding cloud arbitrarily to the playoffs to add “hype”. Stop pissing on us and calling it rain.

I will be happy with you saying, “we changed the rules in our Op meeting and didn’t consult the captains about a mid-season/end season rule change.”

thank you

Get ready for some more wacky decisions now that Dwopple is retiring hehehe.

[Dwopple]

You’re welcome.

and yes, you are changing rules. There is no misinterpreting that prime and cloud are and were eliminated by every interpretation of any and all tie breaker rules set forth in any season. You are adding cloud arbitrarily to the playoffs to add “hype”. Stop pissing on us and calling it rain.

I will be happy with you saying, “we changed the rules in our Op meeting and didn’t consult the captains about a mid-season/end season rule change.”

thank you

With any decision comes controversy. Hence, my indication this being a one-time use resolution. I made the decision to address and resolve this issue with the above decision. The decision to proceed with this rule change without full-captain input was my own. Consider this acknowledgement toward how you feel about this.

If you have more to say on how you feel about this, by all means proceed to.

Regardless, I hope to see you on the p1tch for playoffs this Sunday and for as long as your team advances this season.

[Captain Lonestar]

Lmao, all these guys that lost to Cloud/Mythril in regular season twdtd be shaking in their boots. But worry not, we already won them once and well take ’em out again.

[Cape]

I think Cloud had a great team that didn't show enough this season. Them getting into playoffs is pure nonsense though. Zero chance me or Tiny get this type of royal treatment.
If this wasn't a 2d spaceship game I'd be pissed off. Clownshow ringleader: Dwopple. Someone make this man a clown banner and have him wear it as punishment. Thank you.

[Tiny]

Ekko, per our DM's, the updated captain vote, of people not involved in the tie, for cloud being in play-in, is below:

4-No
1-Retired no vote

Cape nailed it in less words than me. I have been knocked out many times with the best or top 2 jav line because i wasn't well rounded or had show issues. We would not get the cloud treatment.

[Dwopple]

Ekko, per our DM's, the updated captain vote, of people not involved in the tie, for cloud being in play-in, is below:

4-No
1-Retired no vote

Cape nailed it in less words than me. I have been knocked out many times with the best or top 2 jav line because i wasn't well rounded or had show issues. We would not get the cloud treatment.

Let me know when it's OK for me to change the topic to how many people thought it was unfair to give you the ratings you got to incentivize you to be our 9th cap in the first place. Since your team finished first place, and there is zero-chance your incentivized ratings had any benefit to you or your team's ability to finish in first place, I'll give you a bit more time to complain about this decision. Sound fair? Just let me know when you're ready, first place team captain Tiny.

[renzi]

Hol’ up, Tiny was given rating benefits to incentivize him to cap? Then his team walks all over everybody else because of said rating benefits? What in the baby back bullshit is that? Am I misunderstanding this? Cancel this whole tournament 😭

[Captain Lonestar]

Yea. Tiny got all his ratings slashed to accept captaincy. Then proceeded to field himself in 100% of regular seasons games and stomped the league. Now he out here claiming he would never get a straw from staff. 😂 peak TW moment.

Everyone crying over Cloud as if we won’t just sweep the play ins. Unnecessary noice, peace out. 🤙🏼