Discussion TWL 8 rules

[lecherious young gun]

Can we get a quick count on the twld-twlj-twlb squads playoff that still qualify under the rules to be invited to return? What if a squad has their 50% returning but a lot of them are ?find last seen over 10 days ago?

[Rodge_Rabbit]

Would it be too much trouble for you or another TWL Op to explain how you're going to handle the jupe, PL?

I'm just curious.

Thats something for me.

With my experience in TWRC, we had the same bug occuring to the flags as in the base games. This made us review what it could be happening.
What we found out, is that 3 settings for lag causing the jupe, since they are set on default levels:

Latency:NoFlagDelay:100:1000:Amount of time before the server can receive no data from the player before it denies them the ability to pick up flags.
Latency:NoFlagPenalty:300:32000:Amount of time user is penalized when they exceed the NoFlagDelay.
Latency:CutbackWatermark:500:32000:Amount of data the server is allowed to send the user per second before it starts trying to cutback by skipping non-critical packets.

Those settings need to be set higher, with that the flag jupe bug can be reduced to a almost none excist level. With only 1 flag, it shouldn't be happenening this quick.

However, the current settings in public/base/TWD/ has to my knowledge not modified settings. I will get those changes done as soon as possible too.

[Voth]

I think Stabwound already asked this, but I don't think it was answered, and I had the same question. Will we have 8 asst limit in TWL also?

[Jason]

Thanks for the clarification, Rodge. Cool beans.

[Awesome]

I think Stabwound already asked this, but I don't think it was answered, and I had the same question. Will we have 8 asst limit in TWL also?

i dont think you need that much in twl. in most cases, the squad captains will show up... if all of the captains dont, i'm sure at least one of the assistants will be there... if that many people dont show up, the squad will likely forfeit from lack of players anyways.

[Voth]

i dont think you need that much in twl. in most cases, the squad captains will show up... if all of the captains dont, i'm sure at least one of the assistants will be there... if that many people dont show up, the squad will likely forfeit from lack of players anyways.

True, thanks.

[Hero*]

10.21 If a game ends by result of a forfeit, the losing team will be given a score of 7-minutes, 30 seconds for and 15-minutes against (7:30-15:00), and the winning Squad will receive a score of 15-minutes for and 0-minutes against (15:00 - 0:00).

I didn't really put much thought into it, but wouldn't this rule screw up something in the standings for +/-? I'm too lazy to figure it out, but that creates a lopsided squad with less points than there should be (one team loses 15:00 minutes while the other team only gains 7:50)

Also, for one example; a team that forfiets is usually a team that is horrible anyway, and it's pretty likely the squad wouldn't get 7:30 against you. It would be pretty unfair if a situation arose like last season where Spastic got into the playoffs over Rejected Basers based on their +/- alone. One of the squads could easily get screwed out of their playoff spot because they get screwed over by a forfiet win.

I think this has not been answered...but is probably the most important. What the heck is up with it?

[Pure_Luck]

working on that. sorry

[Bosshawk]

Yeah, I hope that the TWL OPs are allowed to use some discretion when it comes to deciding the TWL squads, although if a newbie squad gets in over a better squad, the better squad has no one to blame but themselves.

not when u cant get games against those squads....

we sit with a basing lineup all evening somedays for 5 or 6 hours and the only squads that will play us usually are anti-scrub, RB or spastic (which to save a flaming argument..yes we blacklisted for personality clashes) lately since juice's rebuild they have played us....

while these other squads continually play games against squads we have never heard of, and yet when we ask for a game they say they dont have enough yet they sit in TWDD with 10 guys on freq......

most of those squads never play more then 5 or 6 guys in a game and use their lag to make it a silly game....

something should be addressed as well with regards to squads not playing with 7 or 8 people enough.... how can they compete in twl at 8 players if they have never played mroe then a game or 2 with 8 players?

[Sleepy Weasel]

I think this has not been answered...but is probably the most important. What the heck is up with it?

They just did it backwards. Obviously it should be the losing squads get 0 - 15, and the winning squad gets 15-7.5. Typo I guess. They should fix it.

[Sleepy Weasel]

Is it possible to get a list of the squads that are automatically qualified for twlb, twld, and twlj so we know how many spots are open so we can make predictions about who will get in. Because predictions are the only fun part of these forums. Admit it.

[Cig Smoke]

Its not really that hard sleepy i'll do it for u!

TWLD
Pallies, Pirates, Diso, Anc, Sk8, -f-

TWLJ
-f-, sk8, mambo, diso, pallies, pirates

TWLB
-f-, a-s, pallies, spastic, mambo,diso, inc

Now thats assuming -f- wasnt considered dead during the off-season. Either way the rest are in forsure.

Bosshawk: Im sure there are others who will play u. I mean there are alot of times where u arent online and melee wont bd us (dice) even tho u got enough on. I mean the same arguement can be said about melee as said about others. I do agree tho that there should be some kind of rule saying u have to play so many 7/8 player games. I mean look @ Eden's TWD history. Have they even played 1 game w/ more then 6?

[lunch3]

I just skimmed the rules, but looks like it isn't there. What I mean is since there is no rule about structuring twlb into 'conferences' I wish to propose we just forget about conferences and let the best teams win. Have all say 14 squads battle each other (or just 10 random squads like last time) and just have one hierachy where the squads with best recs and best times are listed appropiately without any standing inconsistencies.

[bloodzombie]

i dont think you need that much in twl. in most cases, the squad captains will show up... if all of the captains dont, i'm sure at least one of the assistants will be there... if that many people dont show up, the squad will likely forfeit from lack of players anyways.

But what's your argument against it? Does having 8 or 10 or 30 asscaps hurt anything? let the squads decide how many asscaps they want.

[Cig Smoke]

I just skimmed the rules, but looks like it isn't there. What I mean is since there is no rule about structuring twlb into 'conferences' I wish to propose we just forget about conferences and let the best teams win. Have all say 14 squads battle each other (or just 10 random squads like last time) and just have one hierachy where the squads with best recs and best times are listed appropiately without any standing inconsistencies.

IF ur gonna have all in 1 big group they should have to all play each other. I think we should stick w/ conferences just like we did the past how many seasons. It makes thing much more organized and the best teams still usualy make playoffs. Sure RB lost a spot they "should" of had last season, but who were they gonna replace who got in playoffs? Diso/synd? They were all pretty evenish if u ask me. I do tho think that it would be better if the community could have some say on how conferences look. Not the ONLY say, but maybe have some imput on it.