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  • #31
    This issue has been discussed by the TWL staff.

    While the situation clearly shows a forfeit win by Dragonguard using only one player (KANE), and the record clearly shows a large number of KAOS players quitting to join Dragonguard, it still remains that KAOS still does exist as a squad. It has not disbanded. Whether this is an intentional cheat or not, someone on an active squad did accept a match, and then forfeitted. Meanwhile, no reciprical action was taken (i.e. KAOS did not recieve a free win from Dragonguard). Without the direct admission of the members of the squads involved, and with no real witnesses, it is impossible to determine whether this was a deliberate cheat or not against the TWL qualification system.

    Because of that Dragonguard will not be banned from TWL qualification. Yet the issue remains, and because we are reasonably sure of a violation, Dragonguard will thus recieve a small penalty. 100 points will be removed from their TWDD stats either as soon as someone fixes the database, or it will be removed when we pick the final squads for TWL and tally up the points.

    We sincerely regret that this incident had to happen so close to qualification, and would like to remind everyone that cheating the system will not be tolerated whether blatent or not.

    -Epi
    TWL Advisor/OP
    Last edited by Epinephrine; 01-13-2005, 01:30 AM.
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    • #32
      I'd say that -100 points is quite a bit more than a "small" penalty for DG, this close to the TWD lock.
      sdg

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      • #33
        It doesnt matter how small or big the points taken away is, as long as all the talks and social part of this game getting in the way of us actually playing is gone. Thank you Epinephrine for a straight answer and clarity in the situation. This close to qualification or at the begining of the season we will still try out best. Thanks once again to the TWL staff.

        -K A N E

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Civic
          It doesnt matter how small or big the points taken away is, as long as all the talks and social part of this game getting in the way of us actually playing is gone. Thank you Epinephrine for a straight answer and clarity in the situation. This close to qualification or at the begining of the season we will still try out best. Thanks once again to the TWL staff.

          -K A N E

          WTF YOU LAMEASS! If i were you i'd be like...

          YO EPI YOU SUCK DONKEY BALLZZ. I HOPE ALL TWL STAFF DIE OF CANCER AND YOU ALL CANT HAVE BABIES. YOUR ALL IDIOTS MY SQUAD >>>>> THEN ALL OF YOURS! BRING IT. ILL BEAT ANY OF YOU 1V1 GO #VORTEX WELL SEE WHOSE BETTER. WE DIDNT CHEAT! STAFF SUXX!!!!!!!!!!!


          But then again, thats me.
          Dodge in game :greedy:

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          • #35
            The day this happened, KANE was still ?squadowner of -kaos-.
            megaman89> tsunami taught me that 1 shouldnt have used it
            L K> taught u what?
            megaman89> how to suck

            9:WiL> im gonna with my league \o/
            9:Graner <ZH>> you mean win?
            9:WiL> being on plade i forgot how to spell it

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Epinephrine
              This issue has been discussed by the TWL staff.

              While the situation clearly shows a forfeit win by Dragonguard using only one player (KANE), and the record clearly shows a large number of KAOS players quitting to join Dragonguard, it still remains that KAOS still does exist as a squad. It has not disbanded. Whether this is an intentional cheat or not, someone on an active squad did accept a match, and then forfeitted. Meanwhile, no reciprical action was taken (i.e. KAOS did not recieve a free win from Dragonguard). Without the direct admission of the members of the squads involved, and with no real witnesses, it is impossible to determine whether this was a deliberate cheat or not against the TWL qualification system.

              Because of that Dragonguard will not be banned from TWL qualification. Yet the issue remains, and because we are reasonably sure of a violation, Dragonguard will thus recieve a small penalty. 100 points will be removed from their TWDD stats either as soon as someone fixes the database, or it will be removed when we pick the final squads for TWL and tally up the points.

              We sincerely regret that this incident had to happen so close to qualification, and would like to remind everyone that cheating the system will not be tolerated whether blatent or not.

              -Epi
              TWL Advisor/OP
              The whole point of it is that DG cheated to get pts....they were fed. And, this same situation happened to my squad Tanked last year but we were kicked out of TWLB. If we were punished or even lost the pts we had acquired, we would have still made TWLB. So, this in essence depicts the staff corruption that qan/holybird, etc had talked about. High staff in TW favor certain players and grant them favors.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by LaG KiLLeR
                The whole point of it is that DG cheated to get pts....they were fed. And, this same situation happened to my squad Tanked last year but we were kicked out of TWLB. If we were punished or even lost the pts we had acquired, we would have still made TWLB. So, this in essence depicts the staff corruption that qan/holybird, etc had talked about. High staff in TW favor certain players and grant them favors.
                Agreed. There should be a layed out punishment that's the same for each member and squad. Not a differnt punishment everytime someone does the same crime.
                Dodge in game :greedy:

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Civic
                  Everyone reads this post on me , please read that one then. Even if i leave the game...step up and prevent the immaturity from killing tw.
                  Ironic how you want to prevent immaturity, yet you're the one who felt the need to bend the rules so you could ease your way in.
                  5:royst> i was junior athlete of the year in my school! then i got a girlfriend
                  5:the_paul> calculus is not a girlfriend
                  5:royst> i wish it was calculus

                  1:royst> did you all gangbang my gf or something

                  1:fermata> why dont you get money fuck bitches instead

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SooN
                    GO #arenaremoved
                    stop advertising private arenas that used to be cool until stupid people started hanging out in them 24/7
                    Originally posted by Ward
                    OK.. ur retarded case closed

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                    • #40
                      lol vortex -_-
                      Originally posted by Kolar
                      My reaction:

                      ;1;Holy Shit
                      ;1;Al Qaeda took care of method for us

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by LaG KiLLeR
                        The whole point of it is that DG cheated to get pts....they were fed. And, this same situation happened to my squad Tanked last year but we were kicked out of TWLB. If we were punished or even lost the pts we had acquired, we would have still made TWLB. So, this in essence depicts the staff corruption that qan/holybird, etc had talked about. High staff in TW favor certain players and grant them favors.
                        What happened with Tanked was very different. Tanked blatently gave away wins in one league to another squad so that other squad could give tanked wins in TWBD. This was done over and over for 3 games in each league or so. It was so blatent that you didn't even care that a TWL Op (me) was watching in spec when it all happened.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Epinephrine
                          This issue has been discussed by the TWL staff.

                          While the situation clearly shows a forfeit win by Dragonguard using only one player (KANE), and the record clearly shows a large number of KAOS players quitting to join Dragonguard, it still remains that KAOS still does exist as a squad. It has not disbanded. Whether this is an intentional cheat or not, someone on an active squad did accept a match, and then forfeitted. Meanwhile, no reciprical action was taken (i.e. KAOS did not recieve a free win from Dragonguard). Without the direct admission of the members of the squads involved, and with no real witnesses, it is impossible to determine whether this was a deliberate cheat or not against the TWL qualification system.

                          Because of that Dragonguard will not be banned from TWL qualification. Yet the issue remains, and because we are reasonably sure of a violation, Dragonguard will thus recieve a small penalty. 100 points will be removed from their TWDD stats either as soon as someone fixes the database, or it will be removed when we pick the final squads for TWL and tally up the points.

                          We sincerely regret that this incident had to happen so close to qualification, and would like to remind everyone that cheating the system will not be tolerated whether blatent or not.

                          -Epi
                          TWL Advisor/OP
                          dg better hope the points are taken off sooner rather than later. if the minimum rating for getting into twld is 1250 say, they will have to make it to 1350. it's alot harder to do this rather than make up a hundred points and get up to 1250. . . if you follow.
                          Philos> I both hate you and like you more than anyone in this game randedl
                          Philos> there is something about you
                          Philos> You're like the wife i'd love to fuck, but beat every night after work

                          PhaTz> we should all wear t-shirts that says "I WAS THERE WHEN RANDEDL LOST TWLD" and on the back, "TWICE"

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                          • #43
                            heh i can backup kane's lag problems, i've answered like 2 or 3 of his help calls about his ploss problems
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by randedl
                              dg better hope the points are taken off sooner rather than later. if the minimum rating for getting into twld is 1250 say, they will have to make it to 1350. it's alot harder to do this rather than make up a hundred points and get up to 1250. . . if you follow.
                              Yeah randedl, it does seem kind of out of reach.but really theres no harm in trying. I just come on to play the game, ive been playing to long to still come on and talk to people. The whole situation was blown out of proportion since the begining due to violence and other members of rapid. Like I said , its like a bunch of kids watching reality tv. They seem to have the feel to put people down and make everyone feel bad to keep the image they hold in real life to the point where its online.

                              As for lag killer and fit of rage, lk your wasting your time trying to get me banned from TWL. With the 100 point penalty, your better off wasting your time practicing for TWLJ. Fit of rage, yes I did talk about immaturity on this game. I didnt apologize out of guilt , I apologized out of respect, relief and that the situation was finally closed. We arent obligated to play this game, no one should ever be. Why want to make people leave a game that is already struggling to keep alive.

                              Can we please just lock this thread or delete it , a lot of the further talks would be about me and not TWL. Thank you once again to the tw staff.

                              -K A N E


                              Originally posted by tupac
                              "All this judgment on other lives , needs to stop" - The good die young

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by a2m+
                                heh i can backup kane's lag problems, i've answered like 2 or 3 of his help calls about his ploss problems
                                Yeah you did a2m+, the only staff member that was right about it that i talked to. Wireless card just needed time to train, took about a month. Still ended up buying wire and a new ethernet card :/ thanks anyways

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