TWLB squads

[Ephemeral]

This thread clearly differentiates the two primary ways people perceive the world, those that see 'things' and those that see the 'connections' between the things.

If you choose to look at the 'things', then you will believe that roster limits and stealing of players are the issue.

If you choose the look at the 'connections' between the 'things', then you will believe that there are other factors at work.

[Polari]

Seems that I didn't mention this in my original post, but I don't think a roster limit would help almost at all. I just wanted to say it really is quite difficult to hold a fresh basing squad together.

[genocidal]

I like how Sumpson comes up with a "strategy" of designing a squad so you only have 18 or so members rostered and play everyone and says it's great and the way to go.

Then, when he thinks his squad is getting good, he and his cronies come on the forum and demand that other squads do the same thing.

Other squads, unlike BC, have history and have old players who don't want to be removed from the roster. Like everyone else has said, they aren't hurting anyone so quit your bitching. Your players will get stolen anyway because your squad isn't fun.

[Mootland Farmer]

" like how Sumpson comes up with a "strategy" of designing a squad so you only have 18 or so members rostered and play everyone and says it's great and the way to go.

Then, when he thinks his squad is getting good, he and his cronies come on the forum and demand that other squads do the same thing.

Other squads, unlike BC, have history and have old players who don't want to be removed from the roster. Like everyone else has said, they aren't hurting anyone so quit your bitching. Your players will get stolen anyway because your squad isn't fun." By genocidal

I beg to differ,

I do disagree with my squadmates though. I've counted the amount of squads that should be able to play TWLB and it's around about 14. There's a few dueling squads interested, a few new squads coming up. So this post was really about defending my squad?

[Cig Smoke]

You still have spastic recruiting yet, they are now up to 48 members. Thats Crazy.

The worst part isnt they are that high in #, its that they are still recruiting.

48 members, u can almost make 3 squad out of that.

[Sufficient]

You still have spastic recruiting yet, they are now up to 48 members. Thats Crazy.

The worst part isnt they are that high in #, its that they are still recruiting.

48 members, u can almost make 3 squad out of that.

The question is ... will those 3 squads survive?

[Nickname]

with the leadership of spastic? Not likly.


Bazing? Not even a little?

[Miku19]

Ephemeral is right, concerning all those expectation things.

I think the problem when making a squad that's supposed to train newbies is that at some stage, people's expectations start to change from "hey, basing is fun, I wanna learn more" to "hey, I could actually win TWL with the skillz I've got" (which is very unlikely). Unfortunately, even though the squad would change it's expectations to match those of the players in the squad, the players have already formed a clear opinion on what the squad's old expectations were. That makes it impossible for captains of relatively new squads to keep the players - trained players keep leaving because they think the squad is still a newbie training squad.

That's why it's really hard, perhaps even impossible to keep a training squad together without burning out. (ESPECIALLY if you're competitive yourself, which I imagine a lot of the training squad captains are (like me))

I hope somebody understood what I was trying to tell.

[AcidBomber]

its not only that.. but lets pay a tribute to the squads that have dissolved..

Unionville

Mambo

Dudgeon

Incuria

Dice

ReJeCtEd BaSeRs

Pallies

with them we had 16 squads + the new ones now >

Burn! RB for life... we'll be back :P


EDIT: Hercules got a point... it is school, hard to find time to play... Especially for me.. university soon -_-

[PredatoR_FNM]

I remember when Mambo started, there were ~14-16 of us and we were active, had sometimes almost all players on chat at the same time, that was when the basing had really much of activity (before twl 6) and we played many games, beating good squads (hi wr!) and we developed much on that time.

When time got by, good players wanted to join and we made some "newbie" recruits too (you know who you are) and "trained" (let them play with us) them.

Now lately after last league and during it we had problems of activity, we recruited some, good active guys but that didnt help the fact that other squads werent having 8 players online also. We played 6vs6 games vs. dudgeon etc. squads, that didnt give us the thrill enymore, no sir.

Thats why we started to think that its maybe better to try something else now...we still would have rocked in basing tho but what can you do if you cant train together and old core players who kept squad running for few years started to be more and more away.

Now im happy to see that almost players have found new squads to play in and even made atleast one new.
Also im happy to see how much Mambo was respected, thank you guys for that.

[Ephemeral]

I remember when Mambo started, there were ~14-16 of us and we were active, had sometimes almost all players on chat at the same time, that was when the basing had really much of activity (before twl 6) and we played many games, beating good squads (hi wr!) and we developed much on that time.

When time got by, good players wanted to join and we made some "newbie" recruits too (you know who you are) and "trained" (let them play with us) them.

Now lately after last league and during it we had problems of activity, we recruited some, good active guys but that didnt help the fact that other squads werent having 8 players online also. We played 6vs6 games vs. dudgeon etc. squads, that didnt give us the thrill enymore, no sir.

Thats why we started to think that its maybe better to try something else now...we still would have rocked in basing tho but what can you do if you cant train together and old core players who kept squad running for few years started to be more and more away.

Interesting how what you described above sounds exactly like the history of other squads (Diso, Crips).

[Cig Smoke]

The question is ... will those 3 squads survive?

I dont know if they'd survive or not, thats not for me to decide. The thing is that they COULD survive and be competative. The question is why dont we have as many active basing squads atm, why is our TWLB squad# down from last year. A simple answer is when 1 squad contains eno ugh members to make 3 squads you will eventualy run out of ppl.

[D1st0rt]

Maybe you should look more at the underlying problems that are causing new squads to form instead of going for a quick fix like that.

[RiiStar]

Earn Respect and Respect is returned...
Show Loyalty and Loyalty shall be shown...
Have fun, make it fun, then everyone else has fun...

A simple recipe that keeps comrades together in my opinion.

:fear:

[Stayon]

Obcessed people you are..Im gonna be clear about my squad, and frankly this annoys me when people talk and know..nada. We are trying to be a 3 league squad, if it doesnt works, it's not even important we are basers anyways and maybe we will just go to twlj like last twl. So we start recruiting duelers..some stay some leave (obvious) we know who are the duelers and basers we can count on. And read this..half the squad is inactive, I hope this makes you understand why we are also recruiting.

This is the best part for me..yes this is the " I dont give a fuk" squad, except a little for basing, but it's parcially the reason we arent those 3 league squads if you know what I mean, one thing I almost forgot..why after three years arent we dead then with such a leadership?

I dont like coming here and having to explain things about my squad (big reason I still play), things which should be very obvious and simple, either you are dumb or you "like" to care, and that's not good.

This happens everytime, in every off season, squads come and go, but in the future it will only be harder, because like it was said in other threads, this game is dieing, and a big reason for it is that there are way better games, and that's obvious. Well atleast we will go to twlj, so I hope you are happy.

o papa trocou de alfaite. =D