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    Is there any reason TWL doesn't have some anti-spawning in place like that currently in tourny?

  • #2
    My really annoyed response would be there is nothing in place because staff are lazy. A better response would be there is nothing in place because staff feel there is no adequate solution to the spawning problem OR they feel spawning is a part of the game and therefore TWL shouldn't get rid of it. I personally feel spawning is horrible for fair competition and I hate it seeing some matches decided by it. Many people disagree though.

    A lot of possible solutions have been proposed in the past and ever year this argument comes up. I don't believe any suggested solutions have been tested in game, but I could be wrong.

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    • #3
      Anti-spawn? Give me a break. Spawning is part of the game. Some times you're on the better end of those and sometimes you're on the bitter end of those, but it definitely keeps the game interesting.

      This should never be changed.
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      • #4
        so mk you would want ppl to just get warped back to their end of the arena when they die? i don't see how that helps... what if your team is fighting on the OTHER side of the arena and you gotta take all that time to get back to ur team and what if on your way the rest of ur squad is dying out, if you get back and they are all dead and its you against the other squad, you're screwed... RIGHT NOW, when you die, you get placed around the middle of the arena, so everyone as an equal chance of regrouping with their squads quicker. I really don't think spawning should be changed... i agree with drow, it is a part of the game, to take it away would be stupid.
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        • #5
          Anything that makes this game more skill based should be looked into. TW is already intrinsicly more luck based bc it's a one hit kill deal (TWLD). If a good solution comes up to anti-spawning, then I think it should be looked into and maybe tested. Doing it during TWL is prob not a good idea tho.

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          • #6
            One of the better ways to anti-spawning and teamwork emphasis is already in use by Metal Gear dueling division, where 5 players vs 5 players, if you die in the round, you will be removed outside the arena until all of one team is completely dead. The surviving team wins the round, the game is won by a certain number of round wins.
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            • #7
              Sounds like counter-strike all over again, I don't want to go back to that time
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              • #8
                Spawning is a part of the game, indeed. -_-
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kim
                  One of the better ways to anti-spawning and teamwork emphasis is already in use by Metal Gear dueling division, where 5 players vs 5 players, if you die in the round, you will be removed outside the arena until all of one team is completely dead. The surviving team wins the round, the game is won by a certain number of round wins.
                  That's a neat idea. How many rounds are played then? If 7 rounds are played then that means each individual gets 7 lives. I think this setup would place even more emphasis on teamwork which is a positive thing imo.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by death row
                    Anti-spawn? Give me a break. Spawning is part of the game. Some times you're on the better end of those and sometimes you're on the bitter end of those, but it definitely keeps the game interesting.

                    This should never be changed.
                    Said perfectly, I would rather have it so one terr is lower then the other if it's two TDs, then it switches it up.. if it was a tie then they would keep dying trying to thrust up
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by death row
                      Anti-spawn? Give me a break. Spawning is part of the game. Some times you're on the better end of those and sometimes you're on the bitter end of those, but it definitely keeps the game interesting.

                      This should never be changed.
                      Spawning was probably never really an intended part of SS/Continuum. It's only a problem bc of TW's one hit kill settings. I wouldn't want a 3rd match (best of 3) TWLD final score of 50-49 decided on a spawn. Argue it all you want about it being chance and equal opportunity for being spawned, but if it involves any luck, I think it should be removed for the most part. Remember TWL is about skill, not luck, even if it is "equal luck".

                      But like I said before, a GOOD suggestion and implementation needs to be decided upon and tested for any anti-spawning method to be placed in TWL (TWLD and TWLJ).

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                      • #12
                        metalkid quit subspace (((((

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                        • #13
                          LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL dont change spawns, id be useless then
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                          • #14
                            Did he leave subspace because he got spawned ?
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                            • #15
                              He left SS and GV because he went 0-8 last weekend, and now 0-4 this weekend... he'll be back.
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