TWL Invitations!

[Ekko]

i understand what happened, i was there

it's your squad members' fault for not being around when they know they have to qualify.

don't try to turn the fact that you guys are inactive into a "virt lamed" discussion

If I wanted to turn this into a virtuosus is lame discussion I would link them to your twd history.

Or show them this

Ancients vs. Virtuosus
Played Games
Date Winner Score
Feb 04 Ancients 15 - 8
Jan 25 Ancients 15 - 9
Jan 23 Ancients 15 - 5
Jan 16 Ancients 15 - 7
Jan 06 Ancients 15 - 6

[Kings]

I agree, should be 14 squads.
but heh, there's no more conference shit now? everyone live at the same place? that would be cool. i Could send pascone some flowers.

[tragiK]

why are basers the only ones bitching

[Ekko]

why are basers the only ones bitching

because it's a bit harder to put together an 8 player multiship basing team then a team of 5 players in a ship that is 1 hit kill.

just a tiny bit harder.

I can bitch about wbs as well, why is your "squad!!" in TWLD?

[Paky Dude]

Thanks, no one had faith in Syne. I think you all forget why Squad!! even made it to TWL Playoffs.. No predictions were made off to me making TWL this year, especially golden duck because of the squads being only top 12 or what ever the fudge it is.. Thanks have a nice night, and sorry to unleash and Rival who should've deserved to be in.

[schope]

am i nutz or voth just said that virts full force cant beat other squads full forces

btw we didnt have tsumetai (had to push for you tsu :P)

[Ivan]

PLEASE NO MORE E-DRAMA BETWEEN EKKO VOTH AND DWOPPLE...
i wanna quit subspace now amg

[PaulOakenfold]

Ekko, your squad was irresponsible to the needs they needed to meet. Take this as a lesson bud... I'm sorry you didn't make it, most of us are, but it is what it is, and being bitter and hostile about it does not seem to be getting you any further to cutting the yellow tape on the squad limit.

[Kings]

ev why arent u on subspace, i wanna laugh about voth in his back.

[Exalt]

First off, the number of squads coming back next TWL season is going to be a lot less. I think we were talking about those who made the finals or semi finals would be invited back. That'd take effect next season.

As for the number of teams. I'm not sure how many of you remember last TWL season, but we had quite a few forfeits and drop outs. Moreover, the idea is to have every squad play each other once and go from there. Having 14 squads or any number of squads (other than 12) would mess this up and how the playoffs are supposed to work this season. When we don't have so many forfeits and squads dropping out...and a bigger player-base...the number of squads allowed might go back up.

asmo i respect your opinions, but look above at singers post too, he has the same point as i do, even though pascone tends to bash everything I say just because he can...

and pascone what players DID you listen to? sake? you have to go beyond your own squad to really get a grasp of it all, your squad really shouldnt have input at all considering some of your guys respect no one beyond themselves, not even teammates :/ (this is assuming you listened to mainly sake players because I know a lot of players in the other top squads that dont like the way things are set up this season)



and asmo, like i said I respect what you are saying but it was always the semi-final/finals squads that made twl, all of a sudden this season you let EVERYONE in automatically, just because of what? because -f- didnt make it to semis or something? do they have that much pull still even though they play maybe 12 weeks out of the year?

and the dropouts forfeits were not all certain squads faults... i remember quicksand getting screwed on a forfeit because of staff being jackasses and favoring sk8... thats one example... the other squads well, they were all gonna go 2-10 or 0-10 anyway and the backup squads played better anyway, none of the real contenders droped out last season

and on top of that, there are a lot more capable squads this season that you seem to just overlook i guess? but the squads that tended to forfeit were the shitty ones, which you did let in this season over arguably more capable squads, so extending it to 14 would just add those talented squads into the fold

in the end at least twl is somewhat on time, which i give you guys props for, the hold last season was rediculous, so im happy things worked out somewhat this season... the dropoff of squads in twl is retarded to me but whatever, im sure all of the squads that had capable twl starters will just dissolve and those players will go to the squads that are already in twl...
but just remember that you wont have any capable backup squads to fill the holes this season if certain squads that either got auto-invited JUST for making a playoff appearance forfeit too much or the squads you let in after they played newbs 100 times a day over squads that play top 5 squads everyday dissolve from going 0-10 in twl

[PaulOakenfold]

. i remember quicksand getting screwed on a forfeit because of staff being jackasses and favoring sk8.

People favoring the future TWLD champions? No way!

[Exalt]

People favoring the future TWLD champions? No way!

when it meant a playoff spot for one squad or a measly loss for another, it clearly had more implications than that, but who knew that they would win twld? gratz to sk8 but it was clear that quicksand was biased against in twl and sk8 was favored, if not only because they didnt like qs' attitude and half of the twl ops were on sk8???

[pascone]

asmo i respect your opinions, but look above at singers post too, he has the same point as i do, even though pascone tends to bash everything I say just because he can...

and pascone what players DID you listen to? sake? you have to go beyond your own squad to really get a grasp of it all, your squad really shouldnt have input at all considering some of your guys respect no one beyond themselves, not even teammates :/ (this is assuming you listened to mainly sake players because I know a lot of players in the other top squads that dont like the way things are set up this season)



and asmo, like i said I respect what you are saying but it was always the semi-final/finals squads that made twl, all of a sudden this season you let EVERYONE in automatically, just because of what? because -f- didnt make it to semis or something? do they have that much pull still even though they play maybe 12 weeks out of the year?

and the dropouts forfeits were not all certain squads faults... i remember quicksand getting screwed on a forfeit because of staff being jackasses and favoring sk8... thats one example... the other squads well, they were all gonna go 2-10 or 0-10 anyway and the backup squads played better anyway, none of the real contenders droped out last season

and on top of that, there are a lot more capable squads this season that you seem to just overlook i guess? but the squads that tended to forfeit were the shitty ones, which you did let in this season over arguably more capable squads, so extending it to 14 would just add those talented squads into the fold

in the end at least twl is somewhat on time, which i give you guys props for, the hold last season was rediculous, so im happy things worked out somewhat this season... the dropoff of squads in twl is retarded to me but whatever, im sure all of the squads that had capable twl starters will just dissolve and those players will go to the squads that are already in twl...
but just remember that you wont have any capable backup squads to fill the holes this season if certain squads that either got auto-invited JUST for making a playoff appearance forfeit too much or the squads you let in after they played newbs 100 times a day over squads that play top 5 squads everyday dissolve from going 0-10 in twl

no, i actually asked a whole bunch of people from many squads including dice, thunder, syndicate, spastic, disoblige, plade, and many more. so no, i didn't just ask members of sake. in fact, it was also agreed upon by the rest of twl staff. if i'm "attacking you" it is because you keep making posts that make me and the rest of twl staff appear that we are doing everything wrong. i'm only trying to express our, or specifically my, reasons for why things are the way they are. the rules were updated weeks ago. why is it that you are just complaining now about them? probably because unleash didn't make twl. also, there are 11 games in the season so no one will be going 0-10. perhaps you should have read the rules ahead of time before bashing everything after everything is established.

also the rest of what you seem to be complaining about shouldn't matter this season based on certain rule changes.

[Exalt]

no, i actually asked a whole bunch of people from many squads including dice, thunder, syndicate, spastic, disoblige, plade, and many more. so no, i didn't just ask members of sake. in fact, it was also agreed upon by the rest of twl staff. if i'm "attacking you" it is because you keep making posts that make me and the rest of twl staff appear that we are doing everything wrong. i'm only trying to express our, or specifically my, reasons for why things are the way they are. the rules were updated weeks ago. why is it that you are just complaining now about them? probably because unleash didn't make twl. also, there are 11 games in the season so no one will be going 0-10. perhaps you should have read the rules ahead of time before bashing everything after everything is established.

also the rest of what you seem to be complaining about shouldn't matter this season based on certain rule changes.

yeah ill check over the rules for twl this season, I do know that some things were changed due to last season with the whole forfeit thing with quicksand and the little 3 way wildcard mini-tourny... didnt know there were gonna be 11 games because im used to the OLD rules

anyway, yes I have my own opinions and I express them, personally maybe I am bashing you more because of what players in your squad say rather than what you say personally so for that I apologize

but in any case, even if i didnt have to change squads to be in a twl qualifying squad and not be in unleash, which makes my opinions look biased as hell, i'm sure that I would still have the same opinions about the way things turned out the beginning of this season... but maybe everything will work out and I hope it does, but I think next season things could be a little different and it might help the competition, because twl should be about playing great squads every week and working hard for wins, not saying "hey I have an easy week today, free win $"

[pascone]

yeah ill check over the rules for twl this season, I do know that some things were changed due to last season with the whole forfeit thing with quicksand and the little 3 way wildcard mini-tourny... didnt know there were gonna be 11 games because im used to the OLD rules

anyway, yes I have my own opinions and I express them, personally maybe I am bashing you more because of what players in your squad say rather than what you say personally so for that I apologize

but in any case, even if i didnt have to change squads to be in a twl qualifying squad and not be in unleash, which makes my opinions look biased as hell, i'm sure that I would still have the same opinions about the way things turned out the beginning of this season... but maybe everything will work out and I hope it does, but I think next season things could be a little different and it might help the competition, because twl should be about playing great squads every week and working hard for wins, not saying "hey I have an easy week today, free win $"

that is exactly why the rules were changed. you claim we don't do what the players want, but we did out best to incorporate new rules to avoid these problems. thus, with 12 teams invited, they can all play each other and thus every game matters because playoff spots will be based on head to head matchups. also, with less squads, the idea is to avoid having easy/free wins. of course there might be more squads that should have been invited, but it should have inspired captains/squads to become more active to get the spot. a squad like pentrate in basing deserved the spot by playing over 200 games. did ancients deserve to be in? probably, but penetrate did more to do it overall

and yes, everyone hates my squad. everyone will probably hate me as much as they hate neth too, so it should be a fun season!