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    Its getting pretty annoying that TWL staff seems to consist of people who hardly speak up, let alone make final statements as 'TWL Staff'. I do see Pascone who is active on forums, trying to do his best clarifying some decisions, while he doesn't make decisions by himself. Since Pascone is the only one who speaks up, it feels like a one man show.

    Few examples:

    - The LJ invitation decision with Plade / Fistula; the majority of the people feels that the decision is unclear / unfair and wants a qualification match. Pascone defends the decision, but most people disagree and 'TWL Staff' fails to hear the sound of the people. Pascone's last comment on this matter was that he 'wasn't in the favour of the idea of arranging a qualification match, but if the other TWL ops agreed with it he'd be fine with it'.
    Yet TWL Staff remains silent and doesn't make a final public statement. Instead, they just let the topic bleed to death like they don't care.

    - TWL round 1: all (?) games of 2 pm est are being replayed. While the decision was not made by the most important ops of TWL Staff and in some matches lag wasn't a factor, a lot of people who participate in TWL think the call was a mistake. In fact, in at least one match (Dice vs Mambo) people started to spec. Without going to deep into topic, a lot of people disagreed with the decision that was made. One of the Ops who actually had a part in the decision, fails to clarify how the rule applied to all games, instead of just one game. The LJ game with Sage vs Pandora got replayed and changed the total outcome of the game, while in the original game lag wasn't an issue.
    Yet TWL Staff remains silent and does not make a final public statement about the case and it's already close to friday.

    - TWL round 1: Stray added an ineligable player. Pascone is not sure what 'forfeits' means (50-0, pretty clear) but leaves it to the other Ops to decide what Stray's penalty will be.
    Yet TWL Staff remains silent and does not make a final public statement and it's already close to friday.

    I find the lack of communication disturbing, annoying and irritating. The decisions made by staff are not transparant and if people question the decisions made by TWL Staff with good arguments, TWL Staff cannot hide in silence.

    Edited to fix some grammar issues.
    Last edited by Lame; 10-25-2007, 02:50 PM.
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    Damn right, I think staff should assign someone else for only speaking up about there decisions!
    Someone like E*l*m, he flamed and got flamed so much it wouldn't make a diffrent to him.

    Nah just being dumb while being stoned once again.
    You got a good point Lame.

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    • #3
      I am inclined to agree.
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      • #4
        sadly enough i have to agree with Lame.

        I hope that we can come up with a solution.
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        • #5
          Yes, I admit there has been a lack of communication. We are going to try to do better and let everyone know more info. about what is going on. See the 2 stickies at the top of this forum.

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          • #6
            See that lame, this thread already made a difference
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            • #7
              It does seems to be a one man show with pascone doing all of the work. TWL is what most players look forward to. P_L and Kim need to find people that can help run, communicate, and organize TWL better. With so many dumb decisions being made, I don't think there will be one next year. People are losing interest. Kim seems to be like one those guys who has a little dick, so he buys a big 4x4 Ford w/ raised tires. Trying to talk to him is useless. He just likes the title.



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              • #8
                1) you have to account for the staff turnover. Its hard to keep 'qualified' personnel.
                2)And the fact that people are supposed to 'LEARN' and sometimes learning means mistakes.
                3)At the end of the day, This IS just a 2d game, and we do not get paid for this. This is volunteer work, And we are doing this for the love of the game.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MirrorriM View Post
                  Yes, I admit there has been a lack of communication. We are going to try to do better and let everyone know more info. about what is going on. See the 2 stickies at the top of this forum.
                  Thank you very much!

                  To Stargezer: I do understand that it's all volunterely, but it also involves participation (playingtime) of players so it goes both ways

                  Hope you guys can keep this up.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by stargazer. View Post
                    1) you have to account for the staff turnover. Its hard to keep 'qualified' personnel.
                    2)And the fact that people are supposed to 'LEARN' and sometimes learning means mistakes.
                    3)At the end of the day, This IS just a 2d game, and we do not get paid for this. This is volunteer work, And we are doing this for the love of the game.
                    I'm ur m8 but dont make up excuses. Maybe the problem is now we got TO many TWL ops. I remember back when it was basicaly P_L, nethila, and like Rodge_rabbit. That league was very well handled. Every game deciding decisiong (such as sage/pandora replay) should ONLY be held by pascone and the other TOP twl ops. None of these other ppl who are TWL ops for some various stupid reasons.

                    As for its just a game, sure it is, but its the LEAGUES. Point of leagues is to win. No one wanst to get ripped off or lose because staff fucks them.

                    About the "we arent being paid bullshit" Thats the stupidest shit dude. Your better then this lol No one is forcing u to be staff or be a TWL op. Most ppl didnt evne know you were a twl op to be honest. So to now make up for ur (staff) mistakes sayin u dont get paid, that doesnt justify fucking up.

                    And i did notice the appeals and problem games this week were dealt with right away, but that could also be because Kim is on 1 of the squasd who appealed.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cig Smoke View Post

                      And i did notice the appeals and problem games this week were dealt with right away, but that could also be because Kim is on 1 of the squasd who appealed.
                      Maybe you should consider the fact that TWL staff took a lot of heat for taking too long to come to their appeal conclusions last week, which would give them a reason to act swiftly. Also, once again, I had no word on our appeal. It clearly says so on the TWL rules. Just like how pascone had no say on the Stray game.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kim View Post
                        Maybe you should consider the fact that TWL staff took a lot of heat for taking too long to come to their appeal conclusions last week, which would give them a reason to act swiftly. Also, once again, I had no word on our appeal. It clearly says so on the TWL rules. Just like how pascone had no say on the Stray game.
                        Hey i was just throwing situations out there. Like i said, we'll see next time an appeal comes what happens. I never said u had imput on the appeal or not.

                        And yes they did get alot of heat for it, they should of. Seems like whenever pascone can be involved something gets done. Last week he couldnt bc his squad was 1 of them, and it took a week.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cig Smoke View Post
                          So to now make up for ur (staff) mistakes sayin u dont get paid, that doesnt justify fucking up.
                          Thankyou for pointing that out Cig, seriously what the fuck was he thinking?

                          I think 9/10, staff make the right call though in response to Lame.

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                          • #14
                            MirrorriM has been playing a big role this week as well, and we'll continue to see the impact she will have on maintaining a communicative TWL staff team.
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                            • #15
                              Good, i like MinnowIM I hope she straitens out the communication shit.
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