TWL and TWD roster cap proposal

[Menelvagor]

I propose a twl and twd roster size cap, limiting a squad to a certain number of players for the next twl and twd seasons. I'll use 35 as an example:

I quickly went through a few squads that have participated in twl, and came up with the following numbers

squad roster size
Paladen - 57
Pandora - 47
Penetrate - 47
Savanger - 46
Wingmasters - 42
dice - 41
Thunder - 39

Now a roster cap, would free upto 74 players from these 7 squads alone, allowing for the creation of 2 or more new squads, comprised of mostly twl level players (in their respected leagues). Or at the VERY least, beefing up other, lesser quality squads, into squads that will be alot more active and give alot better competition.

Since the roster cut-off for twl is already 35 (if I'm not mistaken), not too much would change with that, since most squads (even 3 league squads) use alot of the same players in all leagues. Although one possible problem I could see about that, is players leaving squads during twl, after soft/hard lock, possibly rendering a squad to be forced out of the twl competition. This could be remedied by allowing squads during twl, at any time to recruit 3-5 players, that have would have been considered eligible to play during the softlock period (or some such nonsense, you get what I mean)

Another benefit of having a roster cap, is that people would be alot more careful on who to recruit, especially when activity will be such a factor, forcing the good players, to at least play a few matches once in a while to merit their spot on the roster.

And perhaps, making a farm squad might be alot more of a viable option to find and train fresh talent.

Also to take into account the squads like Gianttiger, Lethal Dose, HappyTrian, and Ossify all have 50+ rosters, as well as Schmucks with 93! That's almost 100 players from twd level squads, and 75 players from twl level squads that I've listed... I'ts pretty simple match from where I stand heh, 175/35 = 5 new squads, with a full 35 person roster that could be competing in twd and even twl.

I don't think that this would require too much more effort from the staff, (maybe a bit more from a few players willing to be the Captain of a squad).
If anyone has any thoughts feel free to post. (If you find a hole in my plan, then try to point out a solution to the problem as well as the problem itself heh)

[Static Burn]

A roster limit for TWD will not cause all these new squads to form as you suggest. What it will do is force captains to axe inactive players, then if these players want to get active again they'll have to try to join other squads. This however will be difficult because most squads won't have any room for them, which could cause them to not get active again and possibly quit the game forever. Also it will also prevent squads like schmucks, lethal dose etc. from recruiting new players into TWD, since their rosters will already be full. Since limiting TWD rosters would prevent many new and old players from competing in TWD, I see no reason to do it.

[Exalt]

A roster limit for TWD will not cause all these new squads to form as you suggest. What it will do is force captains to axe inactive players, then if these players want to get active again they'll have to try to join other squads. This however will be difficult because most squads won't have any room for them, which could cause them to not get active again and possibly quit the game forever. Also it will also prevent squads like schmucks, lethal dose etc. from recruiting new players into TWD, since their rosters will already be full. Since limiting TWD rosters would prevent many new and old players from competing in TWD, I see no reason to do it.

what about gianttiger or schmucks who each had/have above 100 members on their roster? im sorry but if you have 20 active members and 80 of them are inactive axe them fuck that

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

I like a 50 TWD cap. With a 35 TWL cap. It gives incentive to be active, while producing. and still gives roster spots those long time members who show up as often as Voth says something intelligent,

[Daldur]

I like a 50 TWD cap. With a 35 TWL cap. It gives incentive to be active, while producing. and still gives roster spots those long time members who show up as often as Voth says something intelligent,

Lol ahahahahhhaha

[Soilderz]

30-35 twl cap

45 twd cap

[Jones]

this idea is stupid

Wingmasters for example have players rostered that have been in the squad for 4 years, if they log in and want to play we'll just add them, not have them apply again.

[Crunchy Nut]

^

WiNGMASTERs:

Twd = 42 Roster
Twl = 21 Roster
Eligible - 16

Kthx

[megaman89]

shutup mene

[freddie]

this idea is stupid

Wingmasters for example have players rostered that have been in the squad for 4 years, if they log in and want to play we'll just add them, not have them apply again.

Indeed, if squad has, lets say, 50 men twd roster I think those rest 15 leaves to other teams if they WANT TO. Maybe they doesnt care about twl. So if squad would axe them all, whats the benefit? None.

[Fujiwara]

shutup mene

lol

[megaman89]

Indeed, if squad has, lets say, 50 men twd roster I think those rest 15 leaves to other teams if they WANT TO. Maybe they doesnt care about twl. So if squad would axe them all, whats the benefit? None.

lol are you brazilian?

[squallFF8]

lmbz

[Salubrious]

I propose a twl and twd roster size cap, limiting a squad to a certain number of players for the next twl and twd seasons. I'll use 35 as an example:

I quickly went through a few squads that have participated in twl, and came up with the following numbers

squad roster size
Paladen - 57
Pandora - 47
Penetrate - 47
Savanger - 46
Wingmasters - 42
dice - 41
Thunder - 39

Now a roster cap, would free upto 74 players from these 7 squads alone, allowing for the creation of 2 or more new squads, comprised of mostly twl level players (in their respected leagues). Or at the VERY least, beefing up other, lesser quality squads, into squads that will be alot more active and give alot better competition.

Since the roster cut-off for twl is already 35 (if I'm not mistaken), not too much would change with that, since most squads (even 3 league squads) use alot of the same players in all leagues. Although one possible problem I could see about that, is players leaving squads during twl, after soft/hard lock, possibly rendering a squad to be forced out of the twl competition. This could be remedied by allowing squads during twl, at any time to recruit 3-5 players, that have would have been considered eligible to play during the softlock period (or some such nonsense, you get what I mean)

Another benefit of having a roster cap, is that people would be alot more careful on who to recruit, especially when activity will be such a factor, forcing the good players, to at least play a few matches once in a while to merit their spot on the roster.

And perhaps, making a farm squad might be alot more of a viable option to find and train fresh talent.

Also to take into account the squads like Gianttiger, Lethal Dose, HappyTrian, and Ossify all have 50+ rosters, as well as Schmucks with 93! That's almost 100 players from twd level squads, and 75 players from twl level squads that I've listed... I'ts pretty simple match from where I stand heh, 175/35 = 5 new squads, with a full 35 person roster that could be competing in twd and even twl.

I don't think that this would require too much more effort from the staff, (maybe a bit more from a few players willing to be the Captain of a squad).
If anyone has any thoughts feel free to post. (If you find a hole in my plan, then try to point out a solution to the problem as well as the problem itself heh)

Have you looked at penetrate's less-than-35-eligible-for-twl roster recently? If you don't see anything odd, I'll give you a hint: d1st0rt is on it (and facetious and nickname and subjugation who log on once every never, plus a few others who log on once every slightly-less-than-never).

[Jones]

Indeed, if squad has, lets say, 50 men twd roster I think those rest 15 leaves to other teams if they WANT TO. Maybe they doesnt care about twl. So if squad would axe them all, whats the benefit? None.

If a squad has been around for 8 months or more, their roster limit for TWD is 40
If a squad has been around for 5 months, their roster limit is 35
If a squad has been around for 3 months, their roster limit is 30
If a squad has been around for less than 3 months, their roster limit is 25

It promotes squad longevity by benefiting squads that have stuck it out longer instead of taking the easy route and just dissolving. Additionally, it doesn't harm squads that have been around for awhile and have many people on the roster that are there as friends.

I thought this was a good idea, however, my personal opinion would be no roster cap at all. Why? The last time this came to light Sk8 was being attacked for having 40+ people on the roster, but for every league game there was this same amount of people who always showed up, and the number of these people were lesser than 40, think 20 and you're closer to the fact. Same goes probably for Disoblige etc, anyway, of course this number could be going down the more multi-league players we have, but everyone is just not as good as Sika, or there isn't any interest.
Well so there are 20 people sitting in the same squad every sunday, why do they need the extra 20 on the roster who could start on another squad you ask. The answer, they won't show.

this was my reply in one of the hundreds of threads concering the same issue. although i just wanted to show my signature.:fear: