TWLD Week 9 Predictions

[Kid Kaos]

The TWLD season drow and raspi were talking about was around 2005 I think.

[Exalt]

was talking about thrustshots. im not so familiar with people back then tbh if exalt was, then i would probably think his points would be something to read again.

I didn't switch to the name Exalt until 2002/2003. Before then, I used a lot of different names, but one of the mains was PulsatingJolt.

So to answer your question: Yes, I was around.

[Mobey]

If game gets registered..
Savanger vs. Mad; 50-45 Savanger.
Quicksand vs. Fatal; 50-38 Quicksand.

That is all

[Jones]

was talking about thrustshots. im not so familiar with people back then tbh if exalt was, then i would probably think his points would be something to read again.

[Epinephrine]

o, so you played him around 2000/01?

Sika was worse than ME in 2000 hehehe

[Jones]

The things I remember about sika was his accuracy more than anything.... that and his lag...

his shots seemed to go faster than everyone elses... plus if I remember correct he used gamepad back when keyboards didnt register more than a couple keys at the same time... so he had the thrust shot before most knew it even existed


I wish these players still played

o, so you played him around 2000/01?

[Kid Kaos]

I played against sika in the finals. Guy was unstoppable. The only round we won was when he did not play.

[death row]

The things I remember about sika was his accuracy more than anything.... that and his lag...

his shots seemed to go faster than everyone elses... plus if I remember correct he used gamepad back when keyboards didnt register more than a couple keys at the same time... so he had the thrust shot before most knew it even existed


I wish these players still played

I never really played against him. I think the once or twice I did play versus him was when I first started playing and we got into some elim games. He always use to kill me and then I would whine about lag. He'd just say ez lol.

=(

[Exalt]

He definitely had some crazy playing style. But overall, I really enjoyed playing with him. One of my favorite teammates in warbird, along with yourself.

The things I remember about sika was his accuracy more than anything.... that and his lag...

his shots seemed to go faster than everyone elses... plus if I remember correct he used gamepad back when keyboards didnt register more than a couple keys at the same time... so he had the thrust shot before most knew it even existed


I wish these players still played

[death row]

He did get fast kills, but he also died out first more than anyone else. Imo getting fast kills isn't so great if you're also going to rack up those deaths fast. Depends on the situation.

Rushing is a good addition to any wb imo, but a good wb is more versatile than just rely on it.

He definitely had some crazy playing style. But overall, I really enjoyed playing with him. One of my favorite teammates in warbird, along with yourself.

[death row]

who was on Venom?

deez, escalate, foxy, few other good wb's at the time. very talented.

[Kid Kaos]

who was on Venom?

Syndicate disbanded for awhile and code made Venom wich was like a cross of Synd / Rampage players.

[Epinephrine]

I believe its the combination of the two, talent and prac.

Mostly talent though, with prac you can iron out some mistakes and generally make teaming etc. smoother, but if ppl don't have the talent then nothing will save you.

In -f- we had the talent and practised too, I remember practising more than these days with drow and other ld players. True sika wasnt usually there, but it didn't seem to matter that much.

Although atleast in twld I dont think he was on a different level than the rest of us, he had talent and he was being aggressive, more than anyone else. For example he would usually die out earlier than rest in a match. Although he didnt go negative, without the rest of the team we still wouldn't have won.
For example me and few others were pretty consistent during that season and sika was able to "count" on us finishing the job :fear:

Just go check the twld records (normal season&playoffs) if you don't believe me otherwise =)

In twlb I feel like a comeback is more possible than in twld, you have more time to get things together and you will only lose time, not lives while being "pushed back". In twld its usually pretty rare for a team to comeback from a bad start, for example something between -10 to -15 kills. In twlb you can be 10 mins behind and still win, if team gets everything working. Point is you aren't handicapped by anything for example at 0:00 - 10:00 point, you can pretty much play like normal at that point (maybe not if you're behind worse than that). In twld your playstyle and decisions will be restricted by the number of lives you and teammates have.

What applies to all leagues in my opinion is that a squad needs ppl with different roles, for example in twld you need ppl who can be aggressive and rush, but you also need ppl who can be defensive and who can resist being pushed or who are adept at killing ppl who try to rush them, perhaps even have an advantage in long-range fighting. Ppl who play midrange can support both of these types and adapt to different situations well. In twlb a spider, shark or terr all can play very differently from one another and a succesful squad needs ppl who can fill out different roles (for example a spider can be defensive aggressive or something in-between, same with terr and shark). In -f- we were lucky to have ppl who could fill out different roles.

Look at the good warbirds for example, the best ones are those who can adjust their styles and are not capable of doing one thing only, unless they're supergood with that. Same goes for squads.

Examples of good wbs:

delectable - good rusher, good mid-ranger and can hold his own long-range too. Solid all-around. Can't really find major weaknesses from him.

vys - imo he didn't team _that_ bad in the loss mad had against epidemic, sometimes you can be left alone on your own cause teammates just played bad and couldn't escape any rushes, didn't really hit their own rushes and generally played bad. Has unique style and is capable of rushing, playing mid and sniping too. Drawback perhaps occasional soloing, but like I said, the loss was more part to mad playing bad than vys' soloing. Guess rest of the season will show us more. Having played with him, in my opinion he can and does team.

Btw, I saw a lot of unnecessary deaths from some of mad pilots, if someone can't escape a rush or rushed badly on their own many times in a row, theres nothing a teammate can do to save them. Other than watch from the front-row seat. You should be able to trust your teammates enough so you don't have to always worry where they are or what they are doing or are they playing smart. I'm not saying mad is bad, I'm saying they played bad in that match.

ease - one of the best mid-rangers who can also rush and snipe, although I wouldn't say those are his best areas. Ease also has a good "eye" to adapt to different situations and is a good teamer, you will see him on the screen a lot, unless he gets picked off by a stray/long range shot :P

racka - has really accurate and "terrifying" rush and that is his main strenght. Racka has presence in the field and can make a lot of ppl shoot too early, too late or choose the wrong angles when trying to get away from him. The reason he nowadays is top 5 wb is that he has developed his mid-range a lot, and can snipe now too, although he doesn't do that much. In addition he doesn't always rush, but does so when he sees an opening. The best way to rush perhaps. In comparison, some ppl on quicksand don't have this ability to hold back and it shows at times.

On QS in general, they all play in a similar aggressive style and it works, they do have talent. Their problem though, is when their opponents are skilled enough to not be pushed around and/or smart enough not to scatter too much. Thats when the match usually slows down a bit and QS players have to adapt a bit. Some of them are capable of this, for example I've seen racka and izor to play mid-range/defensive/rush when the opportunity arises but not blindly - and do well - while few others perhaps aren't slowing down and keep getting killed again and again. Not sure which of them are/aren't capable of adapting their style during a match, havent seen all of their matches.

Other squads have different strenghts and weaknesses yada yada yada...-_-

Good post Raspi. The best players/captains have long known this, but we let other people who think that a one-strategy team is good do their thing and laugh when we beat them (and then they whine that you didn't play their way).

[Epinephrine]

your history page no longer exists because geocities no longer exists

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Raspi]

I was referring to season 8 in ld and season 9 in lb. more than once did he get 10 kills before anyone else got more than 3 or 4.

i also think people are seriously overrating the rush these days or for some reason made some strange comparison to suiciding. well, kinda obvious. people also thought they were able to thrustshoot.

He did get fast kills, but he also died out first more than anyone else. Imo getting fast kills isn't so great if you're also going to rack up those deaths fast. Depends on the situation.

Rushing is a good addition to any wb imo, but a good wb is more versatile than just rely on it.