You've been Fierce'd

[Eugene]

It doesn't matter he was one of our best players and without him playing 100% sk8 just didn't play the best QS had to offer and therefore sk8 didn't actually win twld last season.

Thunder won

[renzi]

so basically you're crying cuz he didnt give u any favoritism? come on, now you're being a true whiny faggot. im pretty sure when i had my first kid i stopped caring about useless shit so much, whats wrong with u tho?

yeah and now youre JAZZY FRESH

[Vys]

so basically you're crying cuz he didnt give u any favoritism? come on, now you're being a true whiny faggot. im pretty sure when i had my first kid i stopped caring about useless shit so much, whats wrong with u tho?

Yes, you instead grow weed and brag about smoking bongs, perfect role model.

[Money]

I'm showing that PH has opened the door for people to question the rules by not sticking to 2 of them.

so basically you're crying cuz he didnt give u any favoritism? come on, now you're being a true whiny faggot. im pretty sure when i had my first kid i stopped caring about useless shit so much, whats wrong with u tho?

[Stylez]

I was axed after hardlock and infrared left after me. He shouldn't of been added back to roster. He physically went to twd page, left squad, rejoined another and then PH put him back on your roster because he regretted doing it.
I'm trying to say, what's the point in having rules when the twl ops don't stick by them.

Lol, why you pressing this so hard? If you wanna read up on everything, and trust me, it makes sense once you become informed on what happened, then go for it.

http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthr...ierce-Vs.-Dark

[Vys]

About the Hypocrit and Infrared situation... The only reason they were added back was because of a loop hole, but not on staffs part. PH took over for Humid during mid-season and was unaware of so called discrepancies on the matter. He did what he thought was in the best interest of TWL, because honestly he couldn't disprove any of what we were telling him. Being that if Hypocrit or Infrared really did or didn't talk to a mod about being added back to roster prior to PH taking over head coordinator for TWL.

Just trying to help clear things up.

I was axed after hardlock and infrared left after me. He shouldn't of been added back to roster. He physically went to twd page, left squad, rejoined another and then PH put him back on your roster because he regretted doing it.
I'm trying to say, what's the point in having rules when the twl ops don't stick by them.

[Stylez]

About the Hypocrit and Infrared situation... The only reason they were added back was because of a loop hole, but not on staffs part. PH took over for Humid during mid-season and was unaware of so called discrepancies on the matter. He did what he thought was in the best interest of TWL, because honestly he couldn't disprove any of what we were telling him. Being that if Hypocrit or Infrared really did or didn't talk to a mod about being added back to roster prior to PH taking over head coordinator for TWL.

Just trying to help clear things up.

[Vys]

I like how you avoid the adding of 2 players after hardlock and focus on the dice and trauma game, which in all honesty was probably the right decision because it was staffs fault for the bot allowing to add Merce into the game.

[PH]

http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthr...s.-Dice-Appeal

a few questions for the autistic mongoloid who won't shut the fuck up about this

one, does it look like i'm the person who handled this appeal? i don't think so, now stop trying to use this as leverage in your already terrible case against me

two, do you seriously mean to tell me that you wanted the rules followed to the letter in this appeal despite the obviously anomalous nature of its circumstances? you wanted trauma to have a free win because an ineligible player was added for a few seconds? you wanted trauma to have a free win despite the fact that said ineligible player couldn't be subbed out so he specced himself and forced dice to play the remainder of the match down a player? you wanted that? holy goddamn fuck you are even dumber than i thought, the twl ops (which, again since you are obviously slow irl, i was not a part of at this point in the season) exist partially to make decisions in unique situations like this and they made the proper call to preserve the integrity of the league by denying the cheap win while also handing out a fair punishment to the captain who made the illegal sub

and with that, if you'd bother to read instead of flinging textual diarrhea everywhere you'd see that every "issue" you've brought up has been adequately addressed, now kindly fuck off with your terrible attempts at "trolling" you medal-less scrub

[Vys]

does she know you have practically wasted 3 days on these forums whining about not getting an imaginary medal

I'm showing that PH has opened the door for people to question the rules by not sticking to 2 of them.

[Jones]

does she know you have practically wasted 3 days on these forums whining about not getting an imaginary medal

[Vys]

Then that's their decision. If they are on a TWL roster and are eligible to play, they are part of the team whether you like it or not. If they want to get serious playing time and they are active, they'll leave to a different squad. If they want to be there and support the team, and don't mind playing unless they are needed, then that's their decision. But just because you're bitter about getting axed and not winning a TWLD title does not mean the rules should be changed for the others. To even bring that topic up is completely absurd.

My sugguestion? Quit being immature and these type of things won't happen to you. Fierce axed you and they went on to win TWLD fairly easily. That tells me their team chemistry improved without you.

You qoute a small section of my post, why not qoute the main bits, like twl ops not sticking to rules and doing what suits him.

And yes, the team went on to do better without me, but your missing other key facts: racka, apok and deez nuts wasn't active untill after I was axed. I was not on my desktop and couldn't compete at the level I once could. I got axed because my ego got the better of me, and the stirrers on fierce didn't make it better.
My girlfriend also gave birth to our son and I moved in with my girlfriend and son. So I couldn't put hours into the game like I used to.

[Draft]

Then that's their decision. If they are on a TWL roster and are eligible to play, they are part of the team whether you like it or not. If they want to get serious playing time and they are active, they'll leave to a different squad. If they want to be there and support the team, and don't mind playing unless they are needed, then that's their decision. But just because you're bitter about getting axed and not winning a TWLD title does not mean the rules should be changed for the others. To even bring that topic up is completely absurd.

My sugguestion? Quit being immature and these type of things won't happen to you. Fierce axed you and they went on to win TWLD fairly easily. That tells me their team chemistry improved without you.

trying to piss off Ease too?

testing sig

[Voice of Reason]

But the rules are clearly stated on the twl website, how can someone change a rule which has been there for years?
On regards of breaking the softlock/hardlock rule, what if 10 other people decided to leave their twl squad and join another squad and then ask to be put back on their twl squad? The twl op would have no other choice but to do so, if he fails not to do so, then he's opening doors to be criticised. There can't be a rule for one and one for another.
The rules and punishments should be clear before the league starts, so once a rule is broken, the person incharge can dish out the punishment and then there's no arguments because we was all clear of the rules and the consequences if the rules was broken.

And do you seriously think people deserve a title if they dont participate in the league? It should only be awarding to the people who participate.
I've squaded with alot of players who would gladly sit on a stacked squad and brag about how good their team is in twl, when they don't even play.
It's only going to be fair and benefit the league if medals are awarded to the people who play in the league.

Then that's their decision. If they are on a TWL roster and are eligible to play, they are part of the team whether you like it or not. If they want to get serious playing time and they are active, they'll leave to a different squad. If they want to be there and support the team, and don't mind playing unless they are needed, then that's their decision. But just because you're bitter about getting axed and not winning a TWLD title does not mean the rules should be changed for the others. To even bring that topic up is completely absurd.

My sugguestion? Quit being immature and these type of things won't happen to you. Fierce axed you and they went on to win TWLD fairly easily. That tells me their team chemistry improved without you.

[Salubrious]

I let off a Thor in a private arena when I was asked to do so by a smod at the time. And the other cases of cheating; I was an immature 15 year old at the time.
And you say why don't I do something and join tw staff. Well I have a applied, but when there's kids on staff like PH who threaten to leave if I'm recruited and then what can I do?
I've put forward a few ideas for tw dev and I also have some ideas about the rules, but I'm waiting for demonic to get back to me on these forums.
I no longer play the game because my desktop fucked up for me and then the replacement laptop also broke.
Why I've been moaning so much in this thread is because I'm trying to show how we have rules but the twl op hasn't stuck by them, for example adding hypocrit and infrared to their rosters after they've left after softlock and hardlock was put in place, and dice adding an illegible player vs trauma+.
What I'm trying to get across, is why do we have rules if a person can change them? How do we know the rules if the person enforcing them doesn't know the rules? That's why I've mentioned about the twld title. Simply because I see flaws in the league; one being that everyone joins a stacked squad, so that they can a free title. Why don't we only award titles to players that actually play in the league? players won't want to stay on a stacked squad if they think they won't get added and then won't get a twl title.
It would also bring newer and more squads into twl.

Vys, do you realize the irony in all of this? You're demanding TW staff to enforce and follow strict rules, when in the past, you couldn't follow the simplest rule yourself. I thought that was funny as hell.

I agree that TW staff ought to strictly adhere to the established set of rules/guidelines. But this is a free, non-professional game run by volunteers who are as young as 14. The staffers aren't perfect molds for such roles, but most are doing their best to take on such responsibility (although some are plain useless, no offence). You have an idealistic vision for how the system should be, and you're not the only one, we all do. But what are YOU personally doing to contribute towards a more LEGIT system, other than bitching about something so minute, that could have easily been prevented had you known how to behave yourself. We, the players, can always call staff out but in the end, the staffers make the overall decisions. If you want to have a real impact on the system, volunteer to be a TW staffer.

Anyway, learn from your mistake and get over it. If you don't want to have a similar experience, don't put yourself in that position in the first place.

point is moot