Revised TWLB Proposal

[ogron]

[ogron]

Here is the revised proposal without a draft, and letting players choose their own squads, while imposing limits to provide a competitive balance and five capable basing teams with a healthy amount of depth.

Moreover, having five teams opens up three spots for squads to gain valuable TWLB experience, giving us eight teams and allowing for two TWLB matches per week (a first!)

I haven't spoken to Turban but I assume he'd be okay with this proposal. I've run it by a few people and they preferred this to the draft. We'll keep the draft in our backpocket as a nuclear option if people are still being obstinate and unreasonable in salvaging TWLB. I think this is a pretty fair and reasonable structure, and hope you will think so, too.

[ogron]

Full proposal here:

http://i.imgur.com/64sjV4O.png

[Crescent Seal]

where dat tl;dr version at

[ogron]

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[ogron]

where dat tl;dr version at

[Tiny]

Thought, instead of completely re-working twlb into a draft, how about reworking the capping system. Take players in twd, and give them a rating like in twdt (rating system, not full on twdt), which you could easily take off the twdt system in place already and applying a twlb cap as far as talent goes. I hate to pick on dudgeon, but they seem to be a prime example. Take dudgeon and give players points based on the abilities they have in basing ship+activity etc etc and cap them on "TWLB rating cap system". Because they have so many player that are so good at so many ships, this would force them to let go of their 5/6/7/8 string shark etc etc. Its not that dudgeon is hoarding all the "basers" its that dudgeon is hoarding all the "basers" that can play many more ships. so for example...stayon rating would be a 9 terr / 10 spid / 9 shark/ 10 activity, as I would have a 5 spid/5 shark/6 terr (5.5 rounded lol)/ 8 activity. working some system based on the 15/20/25 + basing point system cap. This would allow people to be able to stay on squads for twld/twlj/twlb but nerf the stacking. Again, just a thought, and not thought all the way through, but im sure someone could run with this as opposed to essentially being on 2 squad during twl and diminishing twlb.

I am for change in twlb, but I'm not for the twlb draft as proposed as it would completely erase all history of twlb in my mind. I'm not a baser, but I feel like imposing more strict caps as opposed to jumbling the squads into a draft would be better.

Your welcome. You may add my name to TWL staff again for this.

[maketso]

So no TWLB this season?

[Kings]

As long as we can still have a twbd squad to play with meanwhile, honestly, i don't care. But that's going to be very hard to manage. Tiny is going to have a lot of job!

[megaman89]

People didn't like my draft idea so let me try this so I can implement what I want/think is best for TWLB. Neither idea is, TWLB is TWLB and this will put an end to it's history. I know there will easily be 4 "competitive" squads for TWLB because people always join squads right before the season actually starts or before the soft or hard locks. Once they realize they haven't been getting enough playing time or have been demoted from a starter to backup. So this idea will produce 1 more competitive team "apparently".... all while pissing everyone off, congrats. Do you realize how dumb this is yet?

[Rough]

Lego - DF, TJ Hazuki, Diakka, Henry Salami, Claus, NL trigger, Producer, Vati, Trance, Bellflowers, Mango, Nanto, Yawn, TheWadooRooster

Potenza - Cape, Okyo, Downfall, Caos, Hulk, Shayde, Kess, Spezza, Menelvagor, Murder, Biet, Gilder

Fierce - Wbm, War, Oder, 24, WBM, Apok, Deez Nuts, Last Standing(actually pretty good), Death Row, Everett

Burn - Zidane, Best(finally gets his chance to spid, really good too), Mattey, Havok, Mythril, Cripple, Davy, Sphinx

Dudgeon - Dreamwin, Zizzo, Stayon, Jamal, Mcvicar, Megaman, Commodo, Mikkiz, Omega Red, Porkjet, Nokkonen

Cobra - Trasher..........................Rasaq, Ricko, Wax, Shadowmere? -- They will get basers because of Trasher

These are competitive lineups for each team besides Cobra but we have over 50 Free agents right now and I am sure a lot of them will come back before TWL season starts. Also, you can expect players to flip flop.

[ogron]

People didn't like my draft idea so let me try this so I can implement what I want/think is best for TWLB. Neither idea is, TWLB is TWLB and this will put an end to it's history. I know there will easily be 4 "competitive" squads for TWLB because people always join squads right before the season actually starts or before the soft or hard locks. Once they realize they haven't been getting enough playing time or have been demoted from a starter to backup. So this idea will produce 1 more competitive team "apparently".... all while pissing everyone off, congrats. Do you realize how dumb this is yet?

It's hard taking anything you say seriously when you sit on a stacked squad, show up for 1 game, take a teammates spot in the Finals, then leave again, all so you can have fun for 1 hour a year and feed your ego. Your team benched Spezza, a top 5 spider in the zone, so you could play after having contributed nothing the entire season.

You "know", you don't even play this game, you don't know shit or the levels of activity in this zone. They're worse than in years past. Season 18 only had 3 competitive squads. You might not remember that one since your ego is out of the stratosphere and you got slammed in the finals and probably blocked it out mentally.

Remember Season 17? Pandora stacked and Dice broke up. We had 6 good, balanced squads, one very good squad (Revenge), and one stack behemoth in Pandora who just ran over the entire league.

This is going to be Season 17 all over again, except without the balanced squads and no real contender to Dudg. The activity levels are brutal in basing, especially among the majority of the elite players -- except Dudgeon. All those years that had 3-4 contenders were built around the cores -- Dice (Royal/Dudgeon), Penetrate (Enemy), Pandora (Thunder). None of those captains are around except the Dudgeon ones, meaning there aren't quality squads to build around that people have confidence in.

Your only interest is sitting on a stacked squad that is so good it can make the finals without you, so you can show up and take someone's spot and feed your ego.

[megaman89]

I don't have time to show because I have a life, a job, and a girlfriend. When you get one of the 3 you can attack my lack of activity. If I didn't show last season Dudgeon would have lost, what a terrible move on my part by helping out.

I broke up Dice because of the inactivity of the zone and our core players to help out the zone, want me to bring it back and literally kill TWLB? 3 members from the Dice core (Stayon, Jamal, and myself) join a squad that never won and took them to the promise land and now that squad is accused of "stacking." You're so pathetic I don't even want to respond to you anymore.

Incase you missed it....THREE...yes a whole THREE...Dice core members are on Dudgeon. So if we join Cobra, I guess they would be "stacked" now.

[ogron]

I don't have time to show because I have a life, a job, and a girlfriend. When you get one of the 3 you can attack my lack of activity. If I didn't show last season Dudgeon would have lost, what a terrible move on my part by helping out.

I broke up Dice because of the inactivity of the zone and our core players to help out the zone, want me to bring it back and literally kill TWLB? 3 members from the Dice core (Stayon, Jamal, and myself) join a squad that never won and took them to the promise land and now that squad is accused of "stacking." You're so pathetic I don't even want to respond to you anymore.

Incase you missed it....THREE...yes a whole THREE...Dice core members are on Dudgeon. So if we join Cobra, I guess they would be "stacked" now.

I'm not criticizing your inactivity, I'm criticizing you claiming to have any idea about the activity levels and rosters because you don't play this game. You have no idea what you're talking about or the state of basing.

lol, you lost two years in a row without Cape and went to the only squad with a god-tier terrier left and a bunch of veteran euro laggots, how noble. And Spezza, and fermata, and commodo, and kess. You're just a good samaritan, man!

I don't even care about that. There were four good squads able to compete last year. I have no issue with Dudgeon's roster last year.

If you spent more than two minutes in this game you'd know that Dudgeon's line is on par with last years, while the rest of the league is in complete disrepair and a lot of the top tier talent is gone, and basing is a dumpster fire.

The bottom line is you're selfish, and would rather TWLB be a joke to ensure you're a squad guaranteed a Finals appearance than let the majority of basers have a competitive, fun league to play.

[olde]

Drafting dumb