Experience is important and gives u a good advantage, but I still believe in that teamplay is the most important. Ie: Scrotal's Horde, We gott in very close fights with Siege and even beat Elusive, guess why? We didn't have as much as experience as those guys, we just had a great captain who worked out a great strategy which gave us a great advantage. So I think strategies is the way to win! Tho that was in twld, I don't think it's possible in twlb. Twlb is too simple.
-bram
Bleh when Scrotal's beat Elusive it was pre-season and you forget to mention that Symbol went 1-10 for us in <5 mins and later admitted to suiciding on purpose :P
You're naive if you think that "experience"/"teamwork" (l0lz?) have anything to do with TWBT/TWBL/TWL-B performance. It's all just attendance, lag (can be good or bad, but pretty much decides the game either way), or forcing all of your opponents to play at shitty times. Playing the right ship lineup might have something to do with it too, but that's not even an issue these days.
Originally posted by Louis XV You're naive if you think that "experience"/"teamwork" (l0lz?) have anything to do with TWBT/TWBL/TWL-B performance. It's all just attendance, lag (can be good or bad, but pretty much decides the game either way), or forcing all of your opponents to play at shitty times. Playing the right ship lineup might have something to do with it too, but that's not even an issue these days.
Those are all minor factors, and that goes with each and every league, because those are all existing problems within SS today.
Originally posted by Dabram
Experience is important and gives u a good advantage, but I still believe in that teamplay is the most important. Ie: Scrotal's Horde, We gott in very close fights with Siege and even beat Elusive, guess why? We didn't have as much as experience as those guys, we just had a great captain who worked out a great strategy which gave us a great advantage. So I think strategies is the way to win! Tho that was in twld, I don't think it's possible in twlb. Twlb is too simple.
-bram
You can stick 5 random elite vets together and they'll have better teamwork then probably anyone. (or 8 if you want to talk about base.) Experience isn't a 1 sided thing, if you have experience you also have teamwork. Take Zero Hour for example, they have a shitload of experience, but they aren't that good anymore, cause they're too inactive. When I was with them some time ago, we kicked some serious ass.
I fucking own you in the warbird, shut the fuck up.
Ruby, that's so true, 5 random vets have enough experience to play together better then 5 random good players. Tho when those 5 random good players would use an excellent strategy they would probably get very close to those vets or maybe even beat em.
Epi, you gotta admit that Elusive and Scrotals used to have some nice close fights, I remember us losing by 1 death once, that was the most exciting match i've seen so far.
Originally posted by Dabram Ruby, that's so true, 5 random vets have enough experience to play together better then 5 random good players. Tho when those 5 random good players would use an excellent strategy they would probably get very close to those vets or maybe even beat em.
Epi, you gotta admit that Elusive and Scrotals used to have some nice close fights, I remember us losing by 1 death once, that was the most exciting match i've seen so far.
-bram
The one death game was one of the funnest games that I ever played in yah. I believe that was the TWLD championship game. We won that game to defend our #1 spot and win TWLD.
Originally posted by Ruby What's so ironic about this post is how I said a long time ago that all you need is experience and you can play TWLB. Some Diso/Pallies member disagreed with me. It's sad how newbies think they know everything, when they truly don't.
Lol.... Pretty hard shit coming from the mouth of someone who bases maybe once a week. It's you who thinks that you know everything. I can see that attitude in your posts. Btw everyone in Diso/Pallies/WR has more basing experience than you do.
Lol.... Pretty hard shit coming from the mouth of someone who bases maybe once a week. It's you who thinks that you know everything. I can see that attitude in your posts. Btw everyone in Diso/Pallies/WR has more basing experience than you do.
You don't need "Basing experience" to be experienced. If you are elite in a wb/jav, you can pretty much play any ship extremley well (considering you have 3+ years prior experience). I do know what I'm talking about, because I've been there done that. You havn't. Basing experience means shit- Anyone can base. Why do you think raspi is good? Not only is he a really good spider, but he has alot of experience, and he's a very good warbird. I base about 10 times a week. I also play pub on many occassions. Although that means absolutley nothing. I don't like basing as much though, because it's too easy; Therefor being highly boring. How can you see that attitude in posts? You read minds? I'm being honest, unlike half the faggots here, at least I can say that.
I fucking own you in the warbird, shut the fuck up.
It's been my experience that good wb players normally can play good spiders. For example Pallies top wbs are also our top spiders. A little experience is necessary but generally a good wb can make the transition to good spider pretty easily. And normally if you aren't good in the wb you aren't a great spider. It's different for say Shark where Samu and General Malaise couldn't fight their way out of a cardboard box in a wb, but are both topnotch sharks. You don't really need too much "basing experience" as a spider if you have just general experience. Top javs can normally make the switch over to jav as well after a handful of games. Sharks and terr though you really have to be dedicated to basing at least for some period to get down well.
I came into my first basing game with at tops 20 minutes of total experience in a TW spider, but 2 and a half years of SVS and a month of TW warbird, and from what I remember I did well.
Ruby, it's funny that you say all that, because the first time I saw you playing base wb in a priv basing game, you really didn't know what you were doing.. and this wasn't very long ago, this season in fact.
Sure, you were a good shot, but I don't think you really understood the base wb strategy... you're probably better now, dunno I haven't paid attention to your game since then.
I agree that anyone can do spider. But you are wrong in your example. Raspi used to play a lot of basing. He has spent as much time practising tw spider as practising dueling. The reputation of a good spider wasn't gained for free.
8 random elimbies vs 8 starters from basing squads. I wonder who would win? Most baseelimbies can't even play basejav or if they play they cause more damage to their own team. Teamplay can't be learned without playing basing.
Many people don't know yet TW has a flag. Dueling is lot more simpler than basing. Anyone with years of experience from other zones can own in tw dueling without practising it. That's 'cause tw dueling doesn't require skills it's all luck.
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