TWDT Ratings 2010

[saetep]

Also, I agree with the whole statement based on that some people were on a really really good wardbird team... meaning their entire job is easier. They will have far better rating playing with that team than with a team that was just bad. You can have the best player in the game play on a team, and yet if he is with a bunch of bad players, he might not do so well. However, you can take a mediocre player who averages 8-10 on a bad team and put them on a good one, and they will all of a sudden hit 12-15 kills every game based on that. It upgrades their level of play, because they are having to do far less.

The ones that deserve a 9 or 10 star rating are ones that can and will carry a team with a bunch of nobodies, compared to someone that will do pretty bad with them. Anyone can do well with a decent team around them though.

This isn't entirely accurate. It's unclear whether or not a mediocre player will get more or less kills depending on who he's playing with. Bad players miss shots that good players will hit the majority of the time. Then there are less kills for the mediocre player to get. It also depends on the mediocre players style and that of his team. Speaking from personal experience when I play on bad squads I tend to rec more, whereas if I'm playing with a good team I'll try to be a better team player and push with the team, which usually results in more deaths, not necessarily more kills. In some cases a bad team gives a mediocre player the ability to shine because he's the best on the team.

If you think anyone can do well with a decent team around them then watch the_paul try to wb or jav. Also, how many people in twdt are really nobodies with a 2*-5* rating? A few, but not many, and they don't get played. There won't be a single top player that consistently plays with a bunch of nobodies in twdt, nor in twl.

[Jason]

on a scale of one to awesome, i'm super great

[megaman89]

i axed 24 6x from dice, allow him 6

[Eugene]

how many impacts does I have? I wins every TWL I play and have all the win:death goods of anyone in the game, and still am a 9? How many in a row championchips does I has to win to get this 10? Pls tell me..

P.S. I are great baser, I see no why 6 instead of better, pls fix.

Regards,
fludd

[Frightful]

All you people who think I suck in the yellow ship feel free to tell Humid about it.

-24

I'll vouch for him. He might be one of the worst javs I've ever seen. Not only does he try to tk every round, but he intentionally catches bombs near teammates just to watch the explosion. Guy is bad.

[Exalt]

I was a 7 last year ex, which was defined as being a twl player. I didn't do to bad at all last year, almost helped us win the ld title. This offseason I added a midrange game, which most people have seen, but apparently you havent. Paska is a good player, hes just inactive. So I don't understand why you keep trashing me, yes I do suicide at times, but I play midrange alot more, I mean if you payed attention instead of trying to call people out all of the time you would see, but It's whatever I guess. Say what you what.

Look bro, I'm not saying anything against you, because I do think you are a good player. I clearly stated that I think you are a 10 kill guy in any lineup. I just don't think people like paska... at least when they aren't rusty... are worse players than you for instance. Either way, being rated lower is usually better, beyond the ego thing. I'll probably be rated a 7 again like last season too, but I don't really care. It's just an ego thing more than anything.

One more thing you have to realize is... I'm clearly not the only one saying it... especially when:

There are 3 ppl I have received a lot of complaints about, 2 are highlighted here.

Summa confirms other people have said the same things I did. I just spoke of it in forums instead of pming him. Don't get your panties in a bunch over ego, because you know how good you are personally. My opinion shouldn't affect you so much.

[Ricko]

I was a 7 last year ex, which was defined as being a twl player. I didn't do to bad at all last year, almost helped us win the ld title. This offseason I added a midrange game, which most people have seen, but apparently you havent. Paska is a good player, hes just inactive. So I don't understand why you keep trashing me, yes I do suicide at times, but I play midrange alot more, I mean if you payed attention instead of trying to call people out all of the time you would see, but It's whatever I guess. Say what you what.

I'd like to take credit for this even though i probably had nothing to do with it....told you in Battle to play smarter and learn to mid range and you did...i win!

[Ricko]

If you think anyone can do well with a decent team around them then watch the_paul try to wb or jav. .

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOL. Truth.

[Burnt]

Yes, because I'm not an Ease homer that clearly makes me incapable of rating warbird talent! Thanks burnt!

You don't have to be a homer to think a player who leads TWLD in basically every category (kills, +/-. k:d ratio) and who's squad wins the championship is easily a top 5 player.

As for weak he's at least an 8, he led his squad in kills and kills per round and they fell just (:grin short of a championship and he was 2nd in kills in the league.

And Exalt, if you're gonna talk about overrated players can you at least agree with me that I'm not even close to a 9? And if Ease isn't top 5 exactly who is top 5 in Exalt's bizarro world?

[Exalt]

You don't have to be a homer to think a player who leads TWLD in basically every category (kills, +/-. k:d ratio) and who's squad wins the championship is easily a top 5 player.

As for weak he's at least an 8, he led his squad in kills and kills per round and they fell just (:grin short of a championship and he was 2nd in kills in the league.

And Exalt, if you're gonna talk about overrated players can you at least agree with me that I'm not even close to a 9? And if Ease isn't top 5 exactly who is top 5 in Exalt's bizarro world?

I just don't think he is a top 5 player in my own mind. He is a 9, but probably not a 10, and I said that ONLY because he is the ONLY 10 in the list that I saw. That would make him the best wardbird in all of TWDT, and I don't think he is.

Ease is a good player, but there is nothing so amazingly difficult about him as a player that would make me think he is the best. That entire thunder team had a lot of good players, you included.

The reason I think weak isn't an 8 is because he is mainly a rusher (although I haven't seen him play lately, so dunno if he can midrange/radar now), and I don't think he would do so well on teams that don't push nonstop. If he was on a TWDT team full of snipers, he would do pretty badly in my personal opinion, so that comes into account when I think of him as a * rating.

In all honesty, I don't think anyone can be defined within just a * rating in this game. Everyone plays different styles, attacks and defends different, and they all help their team out in different ways. Everyone is good at different things. Weak is a great team player on a rush squad for instance, while burnt you are a great player in staying alive and I have seen you carry games by yourself on that newbie squad you've made a few times (I forget the name of it).

I don't think weak would be able to do what you do for instance burnt, in comparison to carrying a group of not so skilled players. He is a great "team" player, but he isn't an impact player if the squad doesn't rush full speed. At least, that was my previous opinion about him, and I have not seen him lately. I don't know for sure how he plays now, because even when I play against Win or Die on pandora, I never see him in the lineup. I know that pandora is far more mid range and radar than Win or Die, and he joined us for a week maybe and did pretty badly. It just doesn't fit his style, and that concerns me if a TWDT squad drafted him and played him with people that mainly mid range/radar.

Even still, weak... don't take what I said so personally. I already admitted I have not seen you lately (not since TWL really), and so I do think you could have fixed your game. I just don't know how well you would do without a rushing lineup, because I haven't seen it. That doesn't mean you CAN'T be an 8 star, because there could be far worse players than you rated that high. You shouldn't let your ego get the best of you in this game, although I know you haven't played as long as a lot of people and that might affect it.

And burnt, if this didn't answer your questions already... Weak was on a rush squad that is predicated on teaming. When you are a rusher like that, and you team rush correctly, certain players will get kills while certain players do the decoying and draw shots. I'm not saying he is a bad player by any means, but I haven't seen him do that great on teams that don't full out rush. Quicksand kind of trained him to play like that, so I don't know if he changed his game up lately or not, but that is what I know of him from my own experiences. I think that deserves a 7, as he is a twl starter, but maybe not an 8 if he isn't on Quicksand/Win or Die hybrid. I'm thinking in the TWDT aspect full of players you can't choose, rather than TWL where he can choose whatever team is his best fit and own.

As far as you being a 9, I do think it is deserved, or at least an 8. You can play in all styles and still win, and I have seen you completely carry newbs vs good squads and win. Weak, on the other hand, is not that type of player to be able to carry a team on his shoulders.

Ease is a solid 9, but in my own opinion, I don't think he is a 10 mainly because he is the ONLY one. If we had a larger list of players and I saw more 10s, I might agree.

Turban even said: His top 3 warbirds: Mythril, Racka, Raspi amiright. I would respond to this and say: Who are your top 3 then? Ease may be a top 5 player, but none of these players got a 10, while Ease did. I do not see ease being that much better than any of these 3 players, and that is my complaint.

[Spikester]

omg i care about what grade i get in a spaceshipgame!

[Burnt]

a 10 is a top 3-5 player so no one is saying Ease should be the only 10. You didn't simply say others should be 10s as well, you flatly stated Ease wasn't top 5. I would put Racka, Ease, Mythril and Raspi as the only 10s because i can't think of another player quite at their level. If I had to pick 1 as the top wb I'd go with Ease and maybe that is me being an Ease homer but all i was saying to begin with is he is top 5 and now you seem to be agreeing with that so you can just admit you were wrong and we'll move on :grin:

Ease is a solid 9, but in my own opinion, I don't think he is a 10 mainly because he is the ONLY one

Well that's just dumb, just because others should be 10s as well doesn't mean Ease isn't one.

I'm thinking in the TWDT aspect full of players you can't choose, rather than TWL where he can choose whatever team is his best fit and own.

The players are chosen by the captains and if a captain puts together a team whose styles don't mix well together, it's the captain's fault so i don't see a need to factor a player's style of play into the his/her rating. Racka is also a rusher and you don't seem to think his rating should be lower because of that so why should Weaks?

It just doesn't fit his style, and that concerns me if a TWDT squad drafted him and played him with people that mainly mid range/radar.

That should just concern the captains, not the people who are doing the ratings.


I'm quite good at dominating newbies (just yesterday I went 15-3 vs Savanger) but that doesn't really translate versus TWL caliber players. I still think I'm overrated but have nothing new to add to what I already said.

[Turban]

to exalts 60th wall of text this week, my top 3 & remaining 5-7 for top 10 warbirds would be..

Ease, Raspi and probably Racka.

Mythril (top 5 player when he gets his shit together, but i would not give him a 10), Apok (can be good, or can be terrible -- inconsistent), Vys (not in top 5, sorry brah, but your "style" just doesn't cut it!), Paska (not in top 5, but if he plays more he's definitely top 10 material), Megaman89 (he may be no warbird, but he damn straight knows how to wb. this game isn't rocket science) and B4serman94_X (luv u, even though you hate me). these players belong to my top 10 list.

p.s. izor should be a *7, he's not an "impact twl player" imo. :fear:

rant time!

[Burnt]

p.s. izor should be a *7, he's not an "impact twl player" imo. :fear:

That's not fair, his 5-9 4-9 and 8-10 in the TWLD finals had a huge impact on Thunder winning :grin:

Probably the biggest TWLD final impact since my 3-10 2-6 vs Stray

[Chuckle]

i agree with burnt--he is definitely overrated and was easily the worst starter in thunder.