Decision on Bot Problems

[Summa]

What went wrong:
Updates were made to the Matchbot, but not applied to the TWDT modules. This generated 2 errors: 1) When someone who was added left the arena the bot would died (this was excessively frequent because of people adjusting their resolutions for the TWDT arenas) 2) It assigned a total value of time that you could spend outside of base in TWDTJ instead of refreshing it upon spawning.

The 1st was a problem w/ updates, the 2nd was a problem in design. The first problem has been fixed and we will be running tests today. The 2nd is being worked on and should be ready for Sunday.

What are we to do:
Since I have received a plethora of complaints and appeals about the manual hosting delays in the DTD match (1 of which was thoroughly justified), and apparently some hosts missed my instruction to inform the players of the DTB matches that it was going to be to 10 minutes (although I am not buying the "we didn't know" bs because it said 3 minutes until victory and 1 min to victory and it was clearly shown that the bot was the base module); I am going to declare this previous weekend a Pre-Season weekend.

That said, I cannot justify giving nothing to the squads that showed up and won, while giving those who didn't show and lost a reprieve. So I have decided to add 10*'s per victory to the squads that won's caps. That means teams like Underground (won 2 games) will see their cap rise to 545 instead of 525. I hope that this is sufficient enough repayment for our deficiencies this weekend.

The question for the caps:
Would you rather play the same exact teams again this weekend or would you rather push switch week 7 with week 1?

[kthx]

That doesn't exactly help people who have captaining issues, or help out the people that have to play on them btw. We are already short on players and now the squads that showed strong are going to have even more ammo to get FA as opposed to the squads who need more stars the most. I mean I would just say chock this week up as a pre-season week, roll week 1 schedule onto the end of the "regular season" and go from there. People in TW are used to bots breaking and seasons getting delayed because of it, no need to give extra stars to the other teams.

But don't get me wrong either, because you are right in doing so and you run this league well so I am not trying to talk shit, just being honest.

[Burnt]

Maybe it's because my squad won 2 out of 3, but i think this is a bad decision. Either play the games or don't, but to play them and then say they don't count after the fact seems unfair to me. Despite the bot issues, all the games my squad played in seemed like fair and legitimate games and there's no reason to nullify the results.

[tragiK]

Maybe it's because my squad won 2 out of 3, but i think this is a bad decision. Either play the games or don't, but to play them and then say they don't count after the fact seems unfair to me. Despite the bot issues, all the games my squad played in seemed like fair and legitimate games and there's no reason to nullify the results.

agree

the extra 10 stars per victory is an interesting ruling, but ultimately useless as the remaining free agents are on the waiver because... they belong there.

[kthx]

Also those subpar FA players might actually help a team that was drafted and FA'ented poorly by some captains.

[Draft]

stfu whitebread

10* per victory is nothing, i would ask for more but i pity you guys

our wins are going to count for something, either its regular season week 1 or 10* per victory

not our fault your captain is a dipshit

[Ganon-Knight]

Maybe it's because my squad won 2 out of 3, but i think this is a bad decision. Either play the games or don't, but to play them and then say they don't count after the fact seems unfair to me. Despite the bot issues, all the games my squad played in seemed like fair and legitimate games and there's no reason to nullify the results.

+1


I'm in the same boat here. My squad won 2/3, but all 3 games were legit and really without issue despite bot issues and Brokenfist's "game changing" lag.


Plus you'd be taking away my elite 4-10 impact javelin score and you can't just do that to me!


although I really do think TWDT-B games need to be replayed. No sense in nullifying the others, though.

[Ambrosia]

Although some have weighed in that there are no worthwhile free agents, I actually see 2/3 players on there that would definitely benefit my team, and my problem with increasing other teams salary cap is that potentially this could give them an advantage over the entire competition just for winning one weekends worth of games by being able to make trades with extra cap space and having stars to sign free agents over teams like myself that are under 30 and trying 2 get a couple of good players to benefit my team while reaching the 30 cap.

People think 10* per win is nothing but if it is actually used correctly I think this could give a team a real advantage and Im just not sure winning on weekends worth of crappy games should give them that.

[M_M God]

I don't know if giving 10* per victory to the teams instead of just giving us the wins is going to help, the squads that lost most of their games last weekend will be in even more trouble if the "better squads" can get more good people now. Besides that, we as Candy King had no problems at all besides the games starting 20+ minutes later, rules were clear, all our games were played like they should be and I had no problems subbing people etc either. You might wanna re-evaluate this decision humid.

[PjOtTeR]

I had no problems with the wb and jav matchups...

I have problems with the base game however, cause of aforementioned reasons obviously...
And I partly agree about the 10 extra *s...

Even now I feel like I shouldn't have complained, since we'll make the base play-offs anyways, so a win in wb and jav is good.

[Dreamwin]

+1


I'm in the same boat here. My squad won 2/3, but all 3 games were legit and really without issue despite bot issues and Brokenfist's "game changing" lag.


Plus you'd be taking away my elite 4-10 impact javelin score and you can't just do that to me!


although I really do think TWDT-B games need to be replayed. No sense in nullifying the others, though.

+2 for burnts point.

[Pressure Drop]

Although some have weighed in that there are no worthwhile free agents, I actually see 2/3 players on there that would definitely benefit my team, and my problem with increasing other teams salary cap is that potentially this could give them an advantage over the entire competition just for winning one weekends worth of games by being able to make trades with extra cap space and having stars to sign free agents over teams like myself that are under 30 and trying 2 get a couple of good players to benefit my team while reaching the 30 cap.

People think 10* per win is nothing but if it is actually used correctly I think this could give a team a real advantage and Im just not sure winning on weekends worth of crappy games should give them that.

yeah i was thinking this too

[Stylez]

Honestly, I'm just glad that someone actually took the initiative to help try to correct some of the problems from last Sunday. Rather than just saying, screw everyone and not do anything about it. So kudos to you Humid for at least trying.

As for how this is all going to play out, I say making this a preseason event and having us start fresh next Sunday is the right thing to do. Even if our team won 2 out of 3 events, if we can't hold our own this time around we weren't meant to win that particular league in the first place.

Plus, 20 points goes a long way, if you use them wisely. Which will be up to the managers of each team to do so.

[tragiK]

Plus, 20 points goes a long way, if you use them wisely. Which will be up to the managers of each team to do so.

yea, 20 points could go a long way, as soon are we are given them. you know, before players like drose24 get stolen off waiver for some unknown reason.

[Stylez]

yea, 20 points could go a long way, as soon are we are given them. you know, before players like drose24 get stolen off waiver for some unknown reason.

Yeah, I read your thread about that, and I agree completely with you. If you're going to run a league, you should at least follow your own rules.