HOT OR NOT -- SEMI-FINALS

[ogron]

Disclaimer:

This is for entertainment purposes only.

Dozens of players asked for the return of Hot or Not, and I said no. They tried to bribe me, but I have far too much intregity, so I said no. Then they doubled their offer, and awayyyyy we goooo!

DO NOT read this if you are sensitive. There's a lot of new and returning players, and if you're unfamiliar with Hot or Not, I'm going to be ripping into everyone all season. If you're expecting fair and balanced treatment, you're in the wrong place. I'm going to be as mean as possible, which is what the people want. Nay, demand. I'm catering to you the reader, not the player.


TWDT 2022 HOT OR NOT

[renzi]

Nice. Can’t wait for next week’s TWDT Spotify Wrapped 2022.

[Vys]

Really good read..might want to change my picture to iron man bud ... I've got the best stats in leagues in warbird over the past few years...last 5 twdt seasons including this one I've been #1 in stats 3/5 seasons and #3 in the most recent twl.

Really appreciate the kind words though, especially during stream in warvird game, you're a GOAT HoN writer.

[zidane]

thx for this, great read as always.

[PrOnEsSim]

damn my poor friend ekko got dragged.

entertaining read though. great job oggie!

[Warthog]

Ogron, I appreciate the extra effort you put into roasting me this time. You've clearly learned your lesson. Great HoN!

[Ekk0]

LMFAO, I love this so much.

Anyway.. as I said in my legendary post "I don't identify as a terr nor do I wish to play it over spider but give me an evenly matched team against any terr in this zone and i'll show you a GOOD game so don't fucking mention my name unless it's a compliment."

Since I was not showered with praise and deservedly got a funny roasting, i'mma hit you back with some facts.

You're lucky as hell 2 of our starters didn't show because you do not possess enough skill and cool headedness to terr your team to victory if the game was evenly matched. You think you are the best terr in the zone & while I'd rank you up there in the top 3 of current active terrs, all I see is someone who is the best at picking great teams to sit behind in TWL and someone who got especially lucky this drafting with the team that picked him.

Even with Vehicle in your corner who has been basing since at least 2002 and competently playing all 3 basing ships at a 8* level yet being rated 7.5* for some reason.. and Dare/Groan practicing twbd almost every night and often outperforming their 7/7.5* ratings throughout the entire tournament, your team would have lost to our full line cuz you CANNOT stay alive the second any pressure is put on you.

You can continue being delusional thinking you're such a great 10* terr that you're the major reason your team has done well & you earned that #1 rank against all odds.

Or we can look at it what it really is, you got to play play with a line of active and underrated players and that you're on the only team this season which fielded a full 69* lineup for EVERY SINGLE GAME played while no other basing team or terr in the tournament was as lucky (Maketso came close only having to deal with a 68.5* line in week 5 once, & unsurprisingly he came in second place in the rankings.)

Props to zidane for putting together that team together with your Jafar like self whispering recommendations in his ear I'm sure.

Even with our under robot warportal being slightly overrated at 8* if Lee/Willby showed as they did in regular season when we beat ya 15-10 with a 67.5* lineup in, your road to finals woulda been closed due to construction of a better team this past Sunday.

I went 22-5 & 36-2 in semis with an unfamiliar and demotivated lineup and understarred at that. I know I played great with what was given to me & I have no regrets with how I performed regardless of this absolute bullshit narrative you're trying to spin.

You messaged me after semis game asking why I started setting ports outside of ear because you were so worried about losing you studied all of dwopples recordings of our matches to try and prepare yourself for less of a bootyhole pillaging.

I don't play the same each game for you to be able to predict what I'm gonna do, & frankly setting a port in the ear when you have strong enough sharks to protect it/rep on attach and good enough spiders to push out is not a bad strategy as it is a safe place for your team to regroup if they have the talent to do so.. you're just lucky the universe had things fall in place to help get you to finals.

Heres a break down of our seasons so everyone can get a full picture:

Week 1
Power - 69* line both games
Win vs Treyway – 15 - 2 – spiders: 382 kills to 301 deaths
Win vs Crusaders – 15 – 14 – spiders: 431 kills to 332 deaths


Phoenix – 69* line both games
Loss vs Kickers - 15-14 – spiders: 564 kills to 607 deaths
Win vs Terrorist - 15-14: spiders 541 kills to 570 deaths


Week 2
Power - 69* both games
Win vs kickers 15-5 – spiders: 394 kills to 339 deaths
Win vs prayer 15-10 – spiders: 545 kills to 451 deaths


Phoenix - 68.5* line both games
Loss vs Win or Die – 15-14 – spiders: 571 kills to 588 deaths (this the game we tried warportal in terr and I took over in terr at an 8-3 score, when we were 5 minutes down)
Win vs Snakecharmer – spiders: 418 kills to 372 deaths


Week 3
Power – 69 stars both games
Loss vs Terrorist – 15-6 – spiders 407 kills to 454 deaths
Win vs Malevolent – 15 – 12 – spiders 591 kills to 552 deaths

Phoenix – 68.5, 69
Win vs Crusaders – 15-5 – spiders: 446 kills to 376 deaths
Win vs Prayer – 15-13 – spiders: 608 kills to 424 deaths



Week 4
Power – 69 stars both games
Win vs Win or Die – 15 – 14 – spiders 629 kills to 634 deaths
Loss to Phoenix – 15-10 – spiders 499 kills to 539 deaths

Phoenix – 67.5 stars both games
Loss vs Maleovalent – 15 – 13 – spiders 552 kills to 562 deaths
Win vs Power – 15 – 10 – spiders 531 kills to 504 deaths


Week 5
Power – 69 stars
Win vs Snakecharmer – 15 – 7 – spiders 472 kills to 425 deaths

Phoenix – 69 stars
Win vs Treyway – 15-9 – spiders 476 kills to 401 deaths



I was able to handle the pressure of playing with understarred lines throughout the tournament & survive my way to have my team beat Terrorist in the regular season 15-14 despite my spiders being outkilled.

You on the other hand crumbled like a 32 year old stale cookie in the wind with your team losing 15-6 to Terrorist and you dying a grand total of 15 times in that single game which is half of my deaths throughout the ENTIRE draft tournament regular season where I played 5/9 of my games with a less than 69* lineup.

I hope after you get your ass handed to you in finals you still continue to write these for future tournaments and events because they are very amusing and I love to read them.

I'm not gonna comment further on this after this post, but I'll end with this.. if all players from both starting lines of phoenix/power are game, I'd love to play a for fun game vs you guys just to see how it would turn out. Otherwise there is no reason for me to divert anymore energy to speculate on what ifs and could have beens.

Good luck in the upcoming finals this sunday Oggie, you're gonna need it.

xoxo

-Ekko

[mean gene]

it was a fun season. thanks for the write up's og.

[Exalt]

I have to admit... Ogron dunking on every other terr in the game every single week is fkin hilarious.

[RaCka]

Ogron with another banger as usual, thanks again

[Ekk0]

I thought I was done, but I’m not done.

Here to deliver some REAL stats & facts, rather than the arbitrary opinions displayed in your write up. Let’s start with a star by star review both of our teams season as far as “level of difficulty” can be defined:

Week 1
Phoenix
69 - 68.5 (Kickers)
69 – 69 (Terrorist)
We played this week with a + 0.5* team advantage

Power
69 – 66.5 (Treyway)
69 – 68.5(Crusaders)
You played this week with a + 3* team advantage

Week 2
Phoenix
68.5 – 69 (Win or die)
68.5 – 69 (Snakecharmer)
We played this week with a -1* team disadvantage (Running total: -0.5*)

Power
69 – 66 (Kickers)
69 – 68 (Prayer)
You played this week with a + 4* team advantage (Running total: 7*)

Week 3
Phoenix
68.5 – 67.5 (Crusaders)
69 – 69 (Prayer)
We played with week with a 1* team advantage (Running total: 0.5* advantage)

Power
69 – 69 (Terrorist)
69 – 68 (Malevolent)
You played this week with a 1* team advantage (Running total: 8* advantage)

Week 4
Phoenix
67.5 – 68.5 (Malevolent)
67.5 – 69 (Power)
We played this week with a 2.5* team disadvantage (Running total: -2* disadvantage)

Power
69 – 69 (Win or Die)
69 – 67.5 (Phoenix)
You played this week with a 1.5* team advantage (Running total: 9.5* advantage)

Week 5
Phoenix
69 – 69 (Treyway)
We had a neutral week (Running total: -2* disadvantage)

Power
69 – 68.5 (Snakecharmer)
You played this week with a 0.5* team advantage (Running total: 10* advantage)

Now let’s compare:

Your teams easy AF season: total of a 10* advantage throughout the season.
My teams actually challenging season: total of a -2* disadvantage throughout the season.


Your team on average played at at a 1.11* advantage per game over your opponents. My teams season was played on average at a -0.22* disadvantage per game. Despite this I still averaged 3 deaths per game vs your 5 per game.

& THIS QUOTE YOU THREW OUT LOL

“You are playing on baby difficulty and talking shit to people who are playing on legendary difficulty" - Saiyan“

You’re trying to tell me you played on LEGENDARY DIFFICULTY MODE???

LMFAO OK BYE OGRON PLEASE.

You and Saiyan are NOT the same & Terr vs Wb/Jav/Spider are NOT the same.

Ya coasted your way through an easy season consistently playing understarred teams with a team of mostly adequately and 1-2 underrated players which helped pad up your stats and inflate your deluded ego even more.

You never demonstrated capabilities in the role of a 10* in which you clearly carry your team to Victory. You didn’t get many chances to do that since you're actually the one terr who chilled THE MOST on baby difficulty behind a stacked team all season long.

Anyone that can spot the difference between a potato and donkey shit can recognize that anytime any real heat came at you, you broke like the trench wars server with a 250+ population online.


If you base regularly you know the majority of games are Spider carries. The winning team usually has their spiders outkill the other teams spiders by a significant margin. This is the norm in basing. You can also have the rarer Terr Carry, Shark Carry and the oh so elusive ‘balanced games’.

Some examples of definable 10* terring & terr carries that were shown this tournament:

• Mikkiz won in week 1 despite his team being outkilled by almost 50 while he went 40-4 vs enemy terrs 19-17.
• Zizu had a heavy and impressive week 2 when he won with a terr carry for both of his games. His team was outkilled by 40 & 70 while he went 44-7, & 45-6 vs the other terrs who went 41-14 and 54-14. He had vys in basebird for him for a duration of both these games who was sniping the hell out of the enemy terrs with an impressive 6 TeKs on maketso in wb, and 5 Teks on Heaven. This could be considered a terr+warbird carry, but it’s actually quite difficult to terr a game when you have a basebird in and your team is getting significantly outkilled with less spider power.)

^^^ THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF BOSS TERRING AND PLAYING ON LEGENDARY DIFFICULTY JUST SO YOU’RE AWARE OGRON.

• Frozen Throne won in week 4 with his team being outkilled by 30 while he went 35-4 vs enemy terrs 37-7.

An example of an ever rarer type of excellence:

• Week 1 my team beat Terrorist, however, our spids were outkilled by 30 & I went 39-7 with Maketso going 45-5. This game was a clear SHARK CARRY. Hands down and by far Phoenix had the best shark duo in the tournament in Willby & Dwopple.

& some final numbers for you since you're a stat nerd:

Phoenix played this season at a 2* disadvantage and our 3 losses were 15-14, 15-14, and 15-13.

Your team played this season at a 10* advantage and your 2 losses were 15-6 and 15-10 (this second loss was vs my team when we had Willby & Lee in 😉)

When you look at the full picture of the tournament & correct for star variance & difficulty of matchups, we were definitely the stronger team.

Vehicle is obviously a steal at 7.5* as he can play spider/terr/shark at an 8* level & after BDing with Dare and Groan today I can say they are not broken in the same way but they are still very good for their rated levels.

Unfortunately for you Terrorist has the nastiest spider line in the tournament with Dreamwin/Hellkite/TPZ/Henry Saari/Gumgy ready to rip you a new one just like they did in the regular season.

This is the last chance you've got to live up to your hype and demonstrate some real 10* terrier play Oggie! Even though I've already bet beam 1 million pub bux that you flop, i'll say it again:

Best of luck!!

[Dwopple]

i hadn't realized i missed this level of TW tourney smack talk. HOLY TWDT-B FINALS HYPE

[ogron]

This is the last chance you've got to live up to your hype and demonstrate some real 10* terrier play Oggie! Even though I've already bet beam 1 million pub bux that you flop

Last chance?

LOL WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN. WE'RE 11-2 AND IN THE FINALS.

I'm literally going for the basing triple crown (TWLB/TWDT-B/Cup at the same time) for the third time on Sunday. Stop typing.

[Zeebu]

i agree with everything, make ekko a 10*

[kado]

Great read Oggie! Thanks for the constant effort in making these HoNs great. Also, someone get this Instagram bot (ekko) from spamming HoN!