[MAFIA] AWOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[field]

I don't like the way the discussions has been going on this day phase. Exalt's vote on Voth can be read that he either: A) Has some sort of result or proof that Voth is scum, or B) is still salty about how last game went down and is trying to take Voth out, or even C) Scum trying to cause chaos. Not sure what it is, but I would rather get rid of someone who has yet to post than take out someone when no reasoning has even come to light at all.

Also, the arguments that have come up definitely don't feel organic to me. They seemed really forced, which is a cause for concern. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but it seemed like a blow up over literally nothing.

Beast has yet to post, and since inactivity is my least favorite thing about TW Mafia, I'm sticking with him for the time being. I'm open to change if something more definitive comes up, but the lurkers need to go imo

It is my personal hope, for this game and any other, that no action is taken (for lynch or NK) because people are salty due to result of previous games.

Meta reads are fine (though I do think they're useless vs good players). Actually I think town PRs should be smart and recognize how they need to adjust their gameplay, in order to make better use of their roles.

Having said that, what do you think about exchange between Rodney & I?
And what do you make of the early bandwagon on Voth?

[WillBy]

It does strike me weird that Exalt has made less than 5 posts so far, and none have been an essay. Turks doing a number on our friend here...

To be fair, I'm also feeling a little burned out. I'll host the next one, but I think we should all take a short break

[field]

The exchange between Field and Voth was very strange to me. Some serious red flags came up for me with that one. I'm on the fence about Rodney, so I'm gonna wait to place a vote on him.

Vote: Voth

I'm guessing you mixed up Rodney/voth, but I would like you to elaborate more. What red flags?

And you're the third person to jump on the voth bandwagon. There has been no reasoning thus far for that vote. I would like to hear more from Exalt on that, but I'll let him make his play for the time being.

It does strike me weird that Exalt has made less than 5 posts so far, and none have been an essay. Turks doing a number on our friend here...

[WillBy]

Wait, what? What exchange between me and field?

Quit stealing my posts

[WillBy]

The exchange between Field and Voth was very strange to me. Some serious red flags came up for me with that one. I'm on the fence about Rodney, so I'm gonna wait to place a vote on him.

Vote: Voth

So did you like... mix up rodney and Voth? Cause field and rodney were going hard at it and voth was munching on some popcorn.

Now if you're voting Voth because exalt wants you to, that's different.

Btw Exalt, I was going to meme back the picture of Frodo with the caption "all right then, keep your secrets" but you're right, image sharing is cancer. You're making an interesting play but all of this has some eerie similarities to last game

[Voth]

The exchange between Field and Voth was very strange to me. Some serious red flags came up for me with that one. I'm on the fence about Rodney, so I'm gonna wait to place a vote on him.

Vote: Voth

Wait, what? What exchange between me and field?

[Missa]

The exchange between Field and Voth was very strange to me. Some serious red flags came up for me with that one. I'm on the fence about Rodney, so I'm gonna wait to place a vote on him.

Vote: Voth

[the_paul]

I don't like the way the discussions has been going on this day phase. Exalt's vote on Voth can be read that he either: A) Has some sort of result or proof that Voth is scum, or B) is still salty about how last game went down and is trying to take Voth out, or even C) Scum trying to cause chaos. Not sure what it is, but I would rather get rid of someone who has yet to post than take out someone when no reasoning has even come to light at all.

Also, the arguments that have come up definitely don't feel organic to me. They seemed really forced, which is a cause for concern. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but it seemed like a blow up over literally nothing.

Beast has yet to post, and since inactivity is my least favorite thing about TW Mafia, I'm sticking with him for the time being. I'm open to change if something more definitive comes up, but the lurkers need to go imo

[fiS]

Is Exalt pulling the Jessup move?
Lol ya'll get what I mean?

Finally though some discussion going on.
Rodney is kind of heavily accusing Voth now and to be honest, without actually wanting to defend Voth at this point, I just don't agree with how easy you say it's to find out that Voth is scum? Of course he's getting defensive after that accusation. That's just natural.

Nah I wasn't worried to post and I would have liked to post earlier, I'm just not occupying this topic 24/7.

[Voth]

Nice play, Exalt. I actually am getting the feeling that you are pro-town, unless you are taking a massive risk as a scum play.

Everyone is literally terrified to post right now after he said that because people are worried they will be seen as scum. I think this is a great way to force people to either post or get worked over for not posting.

[WillBy]

I am now more confused

[Exalt]

Since last post failed...

Interesting. Im confused though. Gotta look at the technicalities- its day 2. Or did you mean you found scum night 1?

I'm going to go with a placeholder Vote Beast here. Watch carefully who jumps on or avoids these trains.

I'd like Exalt to clarify this isnt a rando train or something before we move forward on Voth

Not saying one way or the other right now. I want to see what people do first.

[Exalt]

Interesting. Im confused though. Gotta look at the technicalities- its day 2. Or did you mean you found scum night 1?

I'm going to go with a placeholder Vote Beast here. Watch carefully who jumps on or avoids these trains.

I'd like Exalt to clarify this isnt a rando train or something before we move forward on Voth

[Voth]

If Mecha wolf picked a townie, then that means we need to lynch at least two scum without relying on Seer/Night action results. As the alpha is also investigation immune (if used like Normal Godfather).

Either way, it's an OP role that is only balanced by the Witch and I hope whoever that is knows what they're doing and is not thrown off by fact that we have "new" roles here.

Very true... it is highly overpowered. If I were in that role, I would have a huge decision to make. The 1 shot double murder ability is extremely valuable in a game this size, you could put a massive dent in the town right off the bat. Then again, investigating as innocent when you are scum is a huge play for the long-term game. I agree that we really need a Witch who knows what they are doing to balance it. I guess we will see how it plays out.

[Voth]

Nah it just seems that way because i have been the most active in the thread thus far which makes each action i take more out in the open and people will fixate on every little thing and try to twist it to their advantage. I'm simply reading between the lines on exalts post and since we have nothing else to go off might as well use it to pressure some people into conversation and apparently thats working. If you think i would be dumb enough to be scum and be throwing around votes like this already right out in the open you are a fool.

Scum players wait and structure their post and rethink it and rewrite it and perfect it to make sure they arent saying too much but that they arent saying too little either, they want to linger on the fence for as long as they can so they dont get affiliated with someone who flips scum but also so that they dont get criticized for pursuing a player when they flip town.

By the way your one post here now with the slightest bit of pressure on you gives me a pretty large red flag scum vibe from you. Anyone who has played with Voth the last few games of him as town can tell that the way he articulated this post that he is scum this game. It's really that easy to tell. This is the exact same read i got on Missa day 1 last game when i saw her dramatic change in posting style. She was confirmed scum later in the game as well.

For the sake of airing my thoughts in the open in case of my untimely death my current scumleans are on Field and Voth

Can you elaborate on what exactly makes you so sure I'm scum? I'm pretty sure anyone with a brain sees that your jump onto me when Exalt throws out a BS vote with no real reason is super scummy.

Throwing around votes? You got into a skirmish with field, and then unvoted him to vote me with literally no explanation being given by Exalt as to why he was voting me. Why would you do that as scum? Well, you see an easy chance to start a bandwagon on an experienced mafia player and you're capitalizing on it. It's really not a huge reach.

So what you're saying is that because I posted to defend myself and call you out for a scum play, I'm scum? I actually don't even understand what you mean. This game is a war of words and of course no one wants to be lynched early on, so they will clearly come out to defend themselves. What exactly would have made me less scummy? Just not even addressing that I have two votes on me right now? Not calling you out for a scum move? What would of satisfied you that I'm not scummy?

You may be scum or you may not be. That was a pretty scummy move jumping onto that vote, that's all I'm saying. He literally gave no explanation and you abandon your issue with field to jump onto me with no reason. I don't know what you mean by pressuring me into conversation. I have posted several times and the game literally just started, I don't know what you are getting at with that.