[TW MAFIA] Doom of Westeros

[sdrawkcab]

Guys can we have a few games where town stands a chance? Like, town has to have a chance at being able to guess what happened at night towards the end of the game.... towns not gonna ever win if it's a distinct possibility that literally anything was possible....

"well, maybe Rodney died n2 because he used the word 'fart' in thread and Willby claimed fart bomb d1 so rodney died cause willby is a fart bomb"

It's hard to be "useful" when people are claiming literally anything and the response is "oh, cool!".. I tried pushing for the logically correct survivor lynch, I am helping with pressuring claims but those don't even fucking matter.... if we could get a scum to flip we can at least be able to look at voting patterns, but it appears we're flipping obscured today and trusting voth to tell us if the person was town

[Voth]

I am completely fine with lynching Backwards, Exalt, or Rodney to be honest. Each of them will tell us something at least. Backwards has been scummy as hell all game.

[the_paul]

I feel bad for Field. He's been more active than almost all of the players in this thread, as the fucking host. Jesus.

Anyway, if we let Rodney talk himself off the ledge, do we even have another direction to go? I'd be inclined to think Backwards would be #2 after the Rodney/Exalt, but this is the closest thing we've got to an actual lead this entire game. I'm sticking with Rodney unless something somewhat substantial comes up.

[WillBy]

Exalt do you want to talk about that "or"? Because I could kind of believe this claim.

I agree that there needs to be a serious activity spike or some modkills. Sucks to have to ruin a game but it has stagnated pretty hard since before the 4th

[RoDNeY]

The mafia Wiki for Executioner doesnt sound like either of our roles at all but we definitely fit the role of Lyncher, which is why i questioned backwards so hard early on when he mentioned Willby was a lyncher because i was so surprised he brought up that role and i started to suspect maybe he was the hound.

Executioner role :https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Executioner


The lyncher role even has this as standard play :
"In most games, if the Lyncher succeeds in fulfilling their Win Condition, they will leave the game and in the end be pronounced a joint winner with whichever faction wins the main game"
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lyncher

[RoDNeY]

True Voth can check my alignment after flip but by then town will already be a night behind by the time they learn im town... its scummy af for you to act like his night action solves everything when you could just have your scum team kill Voth after i flip and my alignment never gets revealed.

Since you mentioned it, my full role is Ser Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane, Realm-Aligned Castellan (Town Executioner)

You're trying to bullshit people here by saying you stay in the game if you lynch me and you are trying to mislead town with that shit. My role explicitly states that I must be on the lynch train of my brother in order to win OR when all threats to the realm have been eliminated. I clarified with Field on Day 1 that i do not need to meet both criteria to win, just whichever happens first.

Having to be on the lynch train AND still have town win in order for you to win is complete bullshit, it doesnt even sound like a reasonable mechanic cmon Exalt you are better than to throw shit like that out there

We are either both some kind of weird town/third party multi role or you are scum and the way you are pushing so hard makes me feel like you know you win and leave after my lynch and you're trying to close out your game fast and claim my inactivity as scummyness when in reality its been AMERICA WEEK and ive been out bein murican n shit

[Exalt]

Jerome also hasn't posted, and neither has Missa. This phase is lasting an eternity because nobody bothers to even try. Field can't modkill the entire scum team or the game is over, but at this point, the game is dead anyways.

[Exalt]

Also, Undercut replaced inertube and he still hasn't posted yet. At this point, if he doesn't post this phase, can we just modkill his scum ass? It's ridiculous that these scum players are too afraid to post in the thread, so they basically ruin the entire game over it. Dont signup to play mafia if you are only willing to play when you are town.

[Exalt]

It's true I'm the mountain and exalt is the hound. Me and him have the same role and I investigated him as the hound last night even tho he already made it obvious who he was. This game is set up that me and exalt have to lynch each other.

My name and alignment are obscured when I flip and just reads "The mountain"

One thing that is off to me though is that exalt is so sure 100% that I'm scum when in fact I am realm- aligned. My role pm says nothing about the hounds alignment so I'm curious as to where he got this scum idea unless he himself is scum and he knows that my flip will be obscured and no one will know that I'm actually realm-aligned when I flip... He can just act like I'm scum and no one will know the difference.

Yeah I kept my name to myself to not reveal I was the mountain because I knew I was looking for the hound and that he was looking for me.The fact that the hound wants to lynch me I decided to try and just avoid the name claim until I absolutely had to

if exalt lynches me he wins, if I lynch exalt I win. Our deaths dont help town whatsoever when we flip since our alignment is obscured and both of us will be out of the game when one of us lynches the other. This could honestly be a hail Mary play by scum exalt to win before his mafia is found and killed
*cough backwards cough*

If I'm voted off me and exalt are both exiting this phase. Our win conditions are to try to lynch each other regardless so it's up to yall who you want to win. Vote for me and exalt wins, vote for exalt and I win. Vote neither and we both stay in the game.

red pill or blue pill?

Vote Exalt

This is a lie, because I confirmed with field specifically that I will not be out of the game when I lynch you. I only win when you get lynched AND all threats to the realm are eliminated. Idk about your role, but it sounds like you are twisting it a bit to fit your false narrative.

Secondly, I believe you are scum, because my role is specifically Town. My role in parentheses (like this, which you haven't given) is (Town Executioner). I'm also a Realm-Aligned Knight of the Kingsguard. What's your role name?

Now, here's where you fucked up your logic even more. You somehow wonder why I think you're scum, yet you then say me trying to lynch you is a hail mary play by my scum team. How does that make any sense? First you say neither of us are scum, and then you say I'm scum. You cant have both.

I dont exit when you get lynched, so nice try. Youd think you would have confirmed that with field first like I did. You also cannot exit and win by just lynching me, or your role is much more simplified than mine, because I win with both you dead AND a town win. I still lose if you get lynched and scum win. Due to you not disclosing that info, I believe your role truly doesn't say that, and it's because you are scum. You likely win only when scum win.

PS: If you were reading the thread, youd know Voth can check out your flip after you die.

[RoDNeY]

It's true I'm the mountain and exalt is the hound. Me and him have the same role and I investigated him as the hound last night even tho he already made it obvious who he was. This game is set up that me and exalt have to lynch each other.

My name and alignment are obscured when I flip and just reads "The mountain"

One thing that is off to me though is that exalt is so sure 100% that I'm scum when in fact I am realm- aligned. My role pm says nothing about the hounds alignment so I'm curious as to where he got this scum idea unless he himself is scum and he knows that my flip will be obscured and no one will know that I'm actually realm-aligned when I flip... He can just act like I'm scum and no one will know the difference.

Yeah I kept my name to myself to not reveal I was the mountain because I knew I was looking for the hound and that he was looking for me.The fact that the hound wants to lynch me I decided to try and just avoid the name claim until I absolutely had to

if exalt lynches me he wins, if I lynch exalt I win. Our deaths dont help town whatsoever when we flip since our alignment is obscured and both of us will be out of the game when one of us lynches the other. This could honestly be a hail Mary play by scum exalt to win before his mafia is found and killed
*cough backwards cough*

If I'm voted off me and exalt are both exiting this phase. Our win conditions are to try to lynch each other regardless so it's up to yall who you want to win. Vote for me and exalt wins, vote for exalt and I win. Vote neither and we both stay in the game.

red pill or blue pill?

Vote Exalt

[sdrawkcab]

Also, I have trouble imagining any scenario where Exalt's pro-town role requires him to lead a lynch on another townie. So either Exalt is town and Rodney is scum, or Exalt is scum and Rodney is town. If you don't believe Exalt's claim, that's fine, it's not like there's anyway of proving he's telling the truth other than lynching either him or Rodney. But those are our only options today, either Exalt or Rodney. I have believed Exalt to be acting more in town's best interests, he has also been more upfront about his role, and I've publicly questioned Rodney's side more than once in this game. So that's why I'm voting with Exalt. If Rodney flips town, Exalt dies next. Rodney is a hell of a player, but I can't imagine that, if he were scum, Exalt would be happy trading himself basically 1:1.

Outside of a town cop coming forward with 2 guilty investigations (PLEASE DON'T DO THIS), there is no scenario where I see any lynch options besides Rodney or Exalt today.

?? I see no evidence exalts role is pro town at all.. other than he claims he's town (but won't flip town!) and has surmised that must mean his target is not town.. regardless of exalts bullshittery, it's been since d2 that We've started name claiming and heard 0 from rodney even tho he was logged on

vote rodney

[WillBy]

RoDNeY defend yourself

[Voth]

Well, it either works or it doesn't...

vote rodney

[the_paul]

Also, I have trouble imagining any scenario where Exalt's pro-town role requires him to lead a lynch on another townie. So either Exalt is town and Rodney is scum, or Exalt is scum and Rodney is town. If you don't believe Exalt's claim, that's fine, it's not like there's anyway of proving he's telling the truth other than lynching either him or Rodney. But those are our only options today, either Exalt or Rodney. I have believed Exalt to be acting more in town's best interests, he has also been more upfront about his role, and I've publicly questioned Rodney's side more than once in this game. So that's why I'm voting with Exalt. If Rodney flips town, Exalt dies next. Rodney is a hell of a player, but I can't imagine that, if he were scum, Exalt would be happy trading himself basically 1:1.

Outside of a town cop coming forward with 2 guilty investigations (PLEASE DON'T DO THIS), there is no scenario where I see any lynch options besides Rodney or Exalt today.

[the_paul]

we have a kingmaker claimed who says their role interacts with the survivors claimed mechanic

id like to hear a full claim from Romney at this point, name and role

The bolded part is completely incorrect, and I have been very clear about how I don't believe that my role has anything to do with Willby's. I thought it might when we were vaguely hinting back and forth, but after both of us claimed, I don't really see how the 2 tie together. And I have explicitly said this.

I do agree about Rodney though. He publicly and suspiciously dodged having to name claim with the first wave, I don't see any way he can avoid it now.