Mafia 2020 #3: 14 Stories Above the Sea

[kthx]

Maybe the mafia is the friends we made on the way.

[Edify]

That being said, I am Johnie the Chef, town 1-shot inventor. I didn't believe Exalt's Shadow claim immediately, so I didn't do anything night 1. I targeted him night 2, but was obviously unsuccessful. I still have my action left.

So because you didn't believe Exalt's claim, you sought to kill him? Inventor is either a power that can give out x-shot inventions to other players, or can use them himself. You left one important thing out in your claim: what invention were you trying to use on Exalt/give to Exalt?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Inventor

In my mind, this claim put's ixt's roleclaim at risk. I'm surprised that ixt isn't after the_paul more than he is after kthx. In fitting with ixt's claim of bodyguard, someone else seen entering Exalt's cabin on N2 HAS to be suspicious as ever, and yet ixt is off chasing halp, kthx and putting the_paul last. What gives?

Ixt, I have believed you in the past, but this is real strange.

Next phase change noon on Sunday.

[Kassius]

I decided to go back to the D1 voting patterns with today's knowledge.

2 successful Mafia actions on night 1 if poisoning has happened.

1. Ixt - I believe is a Town Bodyguard, so it wasn't him.
2. Kassius - Wasn't me, cause I claimed Townie Roleblocker. I blocked Halp (Unknown) on N1 and Ixt on N3.
3. Halp - Was roleblocked by Kassius (Town), so not him.
4. The_paul - Claims to be a Townie inventor, was third on the Backwards (Mafia) vote train after Exalt (Town) and Voth. Paul changed his vote from Beast (Town) to do this, and from Voth to vote Beast (Town). So the pattern is Unknown > Town > Mafia. I don't believe the_paul to be suspicious to tip the balance from Beast to Backwards, I can't see the benefit.
5. Voth - On day 1, voted Jessup (3rd Party) initially, then ixt (Town), then Beast (Town), then Backwards (Mafia). Pattern is 3rd Party > Town > Town > Mafia. Voth was the second on Backwards (Mafia) train.
6. Hookecho - On day 1, voted Exalt initially, then went completely AFK until Willby called him out for lack of activity, #131, then without being @'d, replies 14 minutes later. Lurking confirmed. Unvotes Exalt to then abstain, please note BEFORE the Backwards train gets started, and then goes AFK again. Pattern is Town > Abstain
7. Edify - On day 1, votes ixt (Town) initially, then Beast (Town). Pattern is Town > Town. Kept his vote on beast even during the Backwards train, post 224 of his was only 2 minutes after Willby's VC and 3 minutes after the third vote when in on Backwards (Mafia) when Backwards (Mafia) took the lead at the death. "Getting close to cutoff time here... I'm going to leave mine on Beast. To me it would be scummy to suddenly switch to sdrawcaB as Beast is the one I'm most concerned about." Exactly, but why even say that ? Because you want to show everyone that you're just too smart to get caught out by that obvious blunder? Yet in posting this, you're basically doing it anyway?
8. Kthx - Wasn't in the game.

So using present day knowledge to look at day 1 again...

The suspects are :

Edify - Town to Town vote, overtly declared he wouldn't be tricked into appearing too scummy by switching his vote. Why even post this?
Hookecho - Too scared to post, lurking a lot, completley flies under the radar, nothing he's saying is getting picked up by anyone.

So after some thought, I have to unvote the_paul.

Vote Hookecho

Let's see how he reacts to being under the microscope.

[Halp]

Gonna make this simple for the newbs that might not understand.

According to Vehicle who watched exalt N1 and nobody visited, N2 the_paul and IXT visited.

This means that either IXT or the_paul killed Exalt on N2, but if the_paul had performed the kill, then why isnt Ixt the bodyguard dead?

Aside from game mechanics suggesting Ixts guilt, there’s also the fact that he claimed in the beginning of the game under no pressure to claim, and “forgot” to submit an action on N1. Remember that?

So for me it’s pretty obvious, unless paul is a strongman, which isn’t likely due to the rest of the setup, it’s ixt.

vote ixt

[Hookecho]

That being said, I am Johnie the Chef, town 1-shot inventor. I didn't believe Exalt's Shadow claim immediately, so I didn't do anything night 1. I targeted him night 2, but was obviously unsuccessful. I still have my action left.

What are you saying here? Are you saying you tried to give exalt something, but he died before he could receive it? That's what I believe an inventor is unless Wilby is using different roles than what's on mafiascum.net.

While this is plausable, that is pretty much pushing the blame to ixt. Not sure I'm buying this 100%. Care to expand on your bus driver theory?

[the_paul]

Maybe this will work for my proof of my poor little dog

[the_paul]

Sorry about my inactivity guys, we had the home inspection yesterday and while we were away my dog sliced his leg open pretty badly. For some reason it won't let me post a picture of him though. Naturally I'm not going to be around a whole lot for the next few days.

That being said, I am Johnie the Chef, town 1-shot inventor. I didn't believe Exalt's Shadow claim immediately, so I didn't do anything night 1. I targeted him night 2, but was obviously unsuccessful. I still have my action left. If Ixt didn't kill Exalt, it has to have been a poison action or something game breaking like a bus driver. I don't have any information or anything to offer besides a 1 time gift that can't be used by the target until the following night. I don't know who to vote for, I think there is something to the idea that the mafia team was at least partially afk the first day and is being led by someone with some experience. My chips are on the table, Wark has claimed (although I think Commuter claims are worth diving into a little more). Who else hasn't said anything yet? We're most likely knocking on the LYLO door, so if you think it's scummy for me to ask for more information, so be it and vote me out. Maybe that's how we can learn something else

[Kassius]

i agree, I'd really like to hear from Paul. Hopefully he has something reasonable to say before the end of the day.

Going to save my vote for now, but my list looks fairly similar to ixt's.

We just need to all vote the same way and not be pressured into changing. I agree on Halp and the_Paul, a kthx lynch would be more on perceived attitude than actual evidence.

But Paul has something to answer, and the truth is a lot quicker to type out than something fabricated that you know is going to get picked apart. It's been days since this was put to him and we've heard nothing, and then we lynched beast instead?

[Hookecho]

i rest my case in how this guy brings 0 significant evidence to the table rather than simple scummy statements. "regardless of paul's claim", "he's not gonna fake claim until he absolutely has to"
if you were really town, you would have no clue if either me or paul were both town, enemies, or both mafia. In what perspective and right can you say my claim makes no sense, reasoning? besides, what are u claiming, VT? and did this guy just sell out his teammate with the second sentence lmao. If you were saying that from a town perspective, you would say "he's not dumb to full roleclaim until he absolutely has to".

SCUMMY PLAYERS BOUND TO BE DEBATED TO LYNCH:
Kthx
Halp
Paul

In this specific order, as paul has yet to claim so I'd like to listen to what he has to say.

i agree, I'd really like to hear from Paul. Hopefully he has something reasonable to say before the end of the day.

Going to save my vote for now, but my list looks fairly similar to ixt's.

[ixt]

and come to think about it its entirely possible because mafia would come up with more better arguments than "why would host have this role in" if they had someone more clever in their team, like supposedly Vehicle (which we were clearly mistaken) or voth.

[ixt]

the info thats important regarding paul is the 2nd sentence.

[ixt]

i think its only fair to give paul a chance to supposedly "role claim" regardless if we are going to doubt him outright. whats intriguing is that with the info at hand, paul does not question vehicle (when he was still alive) or myself and rather go for the potential targets that the rest of us were sus on. for this reason it gives me pause and not completely down to vote paul just yet. my eye is closely on both kthx and halp, likely to be voting one of the two by the end of the phase.

and directed towards Edify Voth i already said i dont question voth's loyalty (if he really sold backwards out hes a dirty mofo) and i want to believe edify having pro-town intentions. see how both kthx and halp are voicing the same exact claims about doubting my stance and saying "oh its a stupid claim" and whatnot. seems to me the two already are familiar with one another. maybe not both are mafia but highly sus that at least one of them is.

[Kassius]

Ixt can we get on the same page with our votes? the_Paul seems to have the biggest case to answer here.

[ixt]

This is the second best reaction to the current situation. The best reaction, of course, would be to lynch ixt because regardless of Paul’s role, ixts claim makes no sense, as kthx pointed out. I have indulged in more than one, but less than three substances that could impede my judgement, and it’s entirely likely that kthx is a scummy fuk fag who is unknowingly exploiting my current cognitive state, but we won’t know that until tomorrow. Crispy, golden waffles sound incredible right now.. fuck

i rest my case in how this guy brings 0 significant evidence to the table rather than simple scummy statements. "regardless of paul's claim", "he's not gonna fake claim until he absolutely has to"
if you were really town, you would have no clue if either me or paul were both town, enemies, or both mafia. In what perspective and right can you say my claim makes no sense, reasoning? besides, what are u claiming, VT? and did this guy just sell out his teammate with the second sentence lmao. If you were saying that from a town perspective, you would say "he's not dumb to full roleclaim until he absolutely has to".

SCUMMY PLAYERS BOUND TO BE DEBATED TO LYNCH:
Kthx
Halp
Paul

In this specific order, as paul has yet to claim so I'd like to listen to what he has to say.

[Halp]

But vote the_paul because if he is scum, he’s not gonna fake claim until he absolutely has to.