Mafia 2020 #3: 14 Stories Above the Sea

[Voth]

Beast might be scum, but the way this wagon has progressed gives me pause. I can't imagine that if he is scum that his team is willing to sacrifice him (though perhaps he is simply more a liability than anything).

My vote stays on Edify. What I say from one day phase to the next means very little. I say things I don't mean or believe all the time to see how people react or don't react. I have a strong gut feeling he is scum.

[Edify]

This is a compelling enough possibility for me to unvote Beast for now as a bandwagon appears to be forming. I had forgotten that there was a role that achieves victory through hanging. Gah

But then again, that person with that role doesn't have any incentive to help the town either so.. I'll wait to see what others are saying.

[Edify]

I bet beast is a jester or something, I can't imagine there are people who are actually that retarded.

This is a compelling enough possibility for me to unvote Beast for now as a bandwagon appears to be forming. I had forgotten that there was a role that achieves victory through hanging. Gah

[Hookecho]

Possibilities:
A) Voth is in the informed mafia group: Easily doesn't see Jessup in his mafia PM-group and votes on Jessup. Voth cozies up to myself as providing great townie vibes. Easy way to try to make everyone feel like he's town while soothing me since I actually am townie.
B) Voth is an uninformed townie: Votes Jessup just because? Voth cozies up to myself as providing great townie vibes. What purpose does this serve? None. More likely than not it's case A than B.

I don't think that voth is scum. I think he was pointing fingers just because early on.

Beast is becoming harder to defend. I find it hard to believe there would be a third atypical role (jessup/neutral serial killer, exalt/paranoid conspiracy theorist townie?). I think he's just stalling for time now that the walls are closing in.

Vote: Beast

[the_paul]

If I end up finding out that I very nearly committed suicide by changing a vote at the last possible second to kill backwards, who ended up scum, and in the process saved Beast, who ends up being scum in the end, I will riot or something. Jesus Christ what the hell is going on?

[kthx]

I bet beast is a jester or something, I can't imagine there are people who are actually that retarded.

[Edify]

354: kthx votes ixt
357: Exalt votes Hookecho | 412: Exalt changes to PartyFalcon
363: Kass votes halp
380: Voth votes Edify
418: Vehicle votes Hookecho | 427: Vehicle changes to Beast
432: Edify votes Beast

Here's my VC based on post#s

ixt 1
PartyFalcon 1
Halp 1
Edify 1
Beast 2

[Edify]

I like you Edify, and you are currently bringing me Day 1 townie vibes.

vote jessup because he hasn't said anything overly retarded YET and that means he has a team in his ear telling him to stfu

Possibilities:
A) Voth is in the informed mafia group: Easily doesn't see Jessup in his mafia PM-group and votes on Jessup. Voth cozies up to myself as providing great townie vibes. Easy way to try to make everyone feel like he's town while soothing me since I actually am townie.
B) Voth is an uninformed townie: Votes Jessup just because? Voth cozies up to myself as providing great townie vibes. What purpose does this serve? None. More likely than not it's case A than B.

• Beast has been silent as all for about 12+ hours, especially once there was 3 votes on him.
• First he said he has a powerful role that he dares not name.
• Then he said he's "also a coordinator" which I understood as he's helped to run a Mafia game before. I had misinterpreted that as he then said he's a "Supply Coordinator" as a job on the ship. It reeks of fishiness. Why not say the shipboard job upfront?
• When he was getting votes for lynch, he then volunteered to be the sacrificial lamb and said he has no special role. Scum identified.

Contradictions all over.

I can now update this list with more scummy behavior from Beast.
-Beast roleclaims as 5-shot townie. When you review that first he's said he's got a powerful role, then says he's vanilla, and now this, you get a craziness pattern that should be paid attention to.

While it is tempting for me to vote voth simply because he has voted me, I'm going to continue with the same line of logic I have been pursuing, until something else surfaces.Vote Beast

Additionally, Exalt complains about me requesting for him to investigate someone using his newfound cop skills. Is that townie behavior? Or is that mafia making a big stink because there's no way for him to make good on an actual investigation? Perhaps your only power is killing people, not investigating in the slightest.

[kthx]

Slightly confused or someone can clarify that beast said he’s some sort of protective role then says “jk”. Now mind you, I’m saving my vote that you could very well also be another protective at the end of the day, but your early actions are contradictory as in day 1 you were making claims that “ohh, edify, Jessup, and I are town...” and now jessup flips clear anti-town. So your position is enough for me to leave a question mark in my mind, but I will withstand until I see more development.

and response to everyone who said “ohh if he was bodyguard...why didn’t you use ability?” Told u already about not paying attention to game but return to do my role justice. And the reasoning for claiming is bright and clear as day, not gonna tolerate the bullshit saying “oh it was outlandish claim”. Town has the clear upper hand at the start, me flashing my town role gives added pressure to whoever is remaining mafia.

and if there’s evidence that beast really is some sort of secondary protective, my big sus falls on Hooke, as he seemingly is trying to “bunch people together” if it turns out all inno

[Halp]

and response to everyone who said “ohh if he was bodyguard...why didn’t you use ability?” Told u already about not paying attention to game but return to do my role justice. And the reasoning for claiming is bright and clear as day, not gonna tolerate the bullshit saying “oh it was outlandish claim”. Town has the clear upper hand at the start, me flashing my town role gives added pressure to whoever is remaining mafia.

poor fella has a broken brain.

[Kassius]

Um what? Can you explain why you think Halp is scum? I just went through all the posts from today's phase and all I see is you blindly voting for him.

I'm glad blatantly calling out Hookecho's absence made him pop up from his hole to make one post throwing shade on someone else. It's not sketchy at all for his only activity to be coming online to defend himself.

But at least he posted something, and I think I smell a real stinker in our midst so I will:
Unvote Hookecho
Vote Beast

Is there some role where your goal is to get yourself lynched? Because that really seems to be what this guys is going for. He's just spamming the thread with posts that are half nonsense. No true townsman would be treating the game with such utter disregard.

And then there's the fact that backwards voted Beast after he was dead. Maybe it wasn't a joke? Maybe it was his way of giving Beast (who had just barely escaped death) the middle finger.

Oh and then there was this post from Beast replying to backwards:


Unless something better comes along, I'm sticking with this guy.

It's a pattern that I've been following since Page 1, with the way the votes changed and the lack of defence, to scum not jumping on a non-scum highlighting a supposed other townie. To halp not addressing me at all, to further information gathered from last night's activities.

If you look back, you'll see I had Beast also in my list. I also had Jessup as anti-town and I came through with that one.

[ixt]

Slightly confused or someone can clarify that beast said he’s some sort of protective role then says “jk”. Now mind you, I’m saving my vote that you could very well also be another protective at the end of the day, but your early actions are contradictory as in day 1 you were making claims that “ohh, edify, Jessup, and I are town...” and now jessup flips clear anti-town. So your position is enough for me to leave a question mark in my mind, but I will withstand until I see more development.

and response to everyone who said “ohh if he was bodyguard...why didn’t you use ability?” Told u already about not paying attention to game but return to do my role justice. And the reasoning for claiming is bright and clear as day, not gonna tolerate the bullshit saying “oh it was outlandish claim”. Town has the clear upper hand at the start, me flashing my town role gives added pressure to whoever is remaining mafia.

and if there’s evidence that beast really is some sort of secondary protective, my big sus falls on Hooke, as he seemingly is trying to “bunch people together” if it turns out all inno

[Vehicle]

No-one looking at Halp anymore except me then ? If my theory holds true, there might be a big smokescreen going on from scum, cause I've been quite relentless in trying to shine a light on him and none of the scum are jumping on it.

Um what? Can you explain why you think Halp is scum? I just went through all the posts from today's phase and all I see is you blindly voting for him.

I'm glad blatantly calling out Hookecho's absence made him pop up from his hole to make one post throwing shade on someone else. It's not sketchy at all for his only activity to be coming online to defend himself.

But at least he posted something, and I think I smell a real stinker in our midst so I will:
Unvote Hookecho
Vote Beast

Is there some role where your goal is to get yourself lynched? Because that really seems to be what this guys is going for. He's just spamming the thread with posts that are half nonsense. No true townsman would be treating the game with such utter disregard.

And then there's the fact that backwards voted Beast after he was dead. Maybe it wasn't a joke? Maybe it was his way of giving Beast (who had just barely escaped death) the middle finger.

Oh and then there was this post from Beast replying to backwards:

scum desperatley trying to out me even after death lul

Unless something better comes along, I'm sticking with this guy.

[Kassius]

No-one looking at Halp anymore except me then ? If my theory holds true, there might be a big smokescreen going on from scum, cause I've been quite relentless in trying to shine a light on him and none of the scum are jumping on it.

[Hookecho]

I was the first to vote for Exalt based off of what I thought was a rule of the game. I quoted WIllby's post from signups saying the theme was a cruise ship and the players would all be staff members. Almost immediately after, backwards (now confirmed scum) posted "Great catch!" and voted Exalt. I think backwards was trying to get a bandwagon going which is not something a scumgang member would do so early in the phase to one of his own. Also, I do not find the last-minute vote switching suspicious because the three of them were very active in the thread for the hours leading up to it.

I voted for Exhalt at the very beginning of the game, way before you came in on page three and started throwing shade on backstab for a previous game.

I thought there would be more evidence provided, and less finger pointing? At this point, it seems like we don't have the ability to investigate anyone until tonight -- unless someone else is an investigator?


At this point, the only thing I can say is maybe we should lynch off the liars:

Beast here can't seem to keep his story straight. What are the odds we have three parinoid/psyco people?

I protected exalt last night. You're welcome.

Jk. I'm 5 shot townie.

Then theres this business of ixt having a special role but not using it because he was "playing games". Why would you not use a special role if you had it?

At this point, my main suspicion is on ixt and Beast.