im tired of laypeople associating communism with authoritarianism

[Dabram]

You know what would be ideal? If everyone was forced to first pass a test about the subject they want to vote on or talk/write about before they can vote on or talk/write about it. This would easily solve all the problems in the world, except that the organisation and bureaucracy that comes with this idea instantly make it as impossible as Communism. :<

[DoTheFandango]

But then I would never be able to talk about girls

[schope]

except that Marxism requires no leader because it is a perfect utopianistic society, and communism calls for a one sole dictator.

ur wrong, communism is a marxist concept. Also ur totally wrong about what you say about marxism, communism is the evolucion of the society, according to dialetics, nothing is "perfect" but everything is allways changing due to existing paradoxes. The trasition "state" as said was called "proletariat dictature" but the meaning of the dictature word, isnt "dictature" at all, since everyone would participate, its called by Lenin as "true democracy".

All i got to say is, watch out what you r reading friend.

[Squeezer]

but in a perfect society there would be no need for a leader, therefore, communism and Marxism are two different ideas based on a sole principle of sharing.

[Blindmonkey21]

Neither works.

Thread Closed -Kim

[schope]

but in a perfect society there would be no need for a leader, therefore, communism and Marxism are two different ideas based on a sole principle of sharing.

I respect your opinion, but i totally disagree with you based on my reading of marx/engels/lenin. Russia was never communist, Also wasnt China, based on the marxist concept of communism.

But i agree that, since communism is a concept, it can have other meanings for different thinkers, for ex:

communism for marshall is totally different from communism for marx.

Also about utopia, well man, open your mind. Do you think that medieval society in its high/peek could imagine our society ? I have my personal critics about communism idea but i dont see it as an utopia at all.

and about the sharing, communism isnt based on sharing, thats a capitalist idea about communism. communism is based on something like "work for pleasure, and get what you need"

[concealed]

I respect your opinion, but i totally disagree with you based on my reading of marx/engels/lenin. Russia was never communist, Also wasnt China, based on the marxist concept of communism.

But i agree that, since communism is a concept, it can have other meanings for different thinkers, for ex:

communism for marshall is totally different from communism for marx.

Also about utopia, well man, open your mind. Do you think that medieval society in its high/peek could imagine our society ? I have my personal critics about communism idea but i dont see it as an utopia at all.

and about the sharing, communism isnt based on sharing, thats a capitalist idea about communism. communism is based on something like "work for pleasure, and get what you need"

you need to get your vocab right, marx did not want communism. He had the idea for socialism. it required an act of force from the common factory worker. china and russia were/are mainly farmers. They also got their forms of communism, which are really just dictatorships, by using the political system that was in place.

The united states has plenty of socialist policies, which i dont necessarily agree with, but exist none-the-less. Social Security, Extensive regulation of trade, and plenty of other things.

Socialism and Communism require 100% commitment by all people. Herein lies the problem. Dictatorship of the proletariot is all that any country gets to, but then its just degrades to dictatorship. D.I.P. should be when the person who is capable of making people believe other things, in socialism, playing his role, educates the others.

Jarbled thoughts of a enlightened, but commonly misunderstood man.

[jeem]

i hear that if you rehash what your history teacher says about politics, it makes you sound smart

[schope]

i hear that if you rehash what your history teacher says about politics, it makes you sound smart

LOL, talking about political science based on history books would make you look like a layperson that compares communism to authoritarianism

[za gophar]

You know what would be ideal? If everyone was forced to first pass a test about the subject they want to vote on or talk/write about before they can vote on or talk/write about it. This would easily solve all the problems in the world, except that the organisation and bureaucracy that comes with this idea instantly make it as impossible as Communism. :<

that's totally not it. they used to keep black people from voting with similar methods.

[Richard Creager]

Yea but that was black people, it's perfectly fine to do it to white rural people, who are generalized as stupid by most kids on the internet who affiliate themselves with a party that does not believe in generalizations.

[DoTheFandango]

Hey RC, I hate you.

Look at mister stereotype over there. I bet all republican are gun-toting, sister fucking rednecks too.

You are wrong and so is the generalization that all democrats fight for Affrimative Action and Hate Crimes.

[Richard Creager]

Haha I'm wrong huh, you know it's easier to just type "You have touched a nerve" buddy.

[DoTheFandango]

Haha I'm wrong huh, you know it's easier to just type "You have touched a nerve" buddy.

At least I'm not the one who pretended to act like a fag for attention

[pv=nrt]

being wrong is one thing but getting attention is another.
it's ok to get attention, not to be wrong.