14 year old girl gets beat up.

[Mr. Peanuts]

I wish you two would stop getting along and start hating each other.

[Krusnik]

damn canadians

YOU DISSSED ME...... hey wait a second wtf?
btw i see some flame wars moving in hehe when its not in the correct forum flame wars can be pretty hardcore to watch or read.

[Troll King]

In a related story, that would put this incident in perspective, in British Columbia today, the Kelly Ellard trial ended with a guilty verdict of second degree murder in the 1997 swarming death of 14-year-old Reena Virk. Ellard, 15 at the time, and six other teenaged girls and a teenaged boy lured Virk under a bridge where they attacked her. When Virk struggled back to her feet after the beating, Ellard and the boy, Warren Glowatski, turned back and attacked her again and drowned her in the river beneath the bridge.

For more information, check out this link: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ub=CTVNewsAt11

[Sleepy Weasel]

Sleepy Weasel's hammered again.

Possibly, but I found the Wendy's around 4:00 a.m.

[Verthanthi]

did you go to the one at the mall?

[Liquid Blue]

In a related story, that would put this incident in perspective, in British Columbia today, the Kelly Ellard trial ended with a guilty verdict of second degree murder in the 1997 swarming death of 14-year-old Reena Virk. Ellard, 15 at the time, and six other teenaged girls and a teenaged boy lured Virk under a bridge where they attacked her. When Virk struggled back to her feet after the beating, Ellard and the boy, Warren Glowatski, turned back and attacked her again and drowned her in the river beneath the bridge.

For more information, check out this link: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ub=CTVNewsAt11

What is wrong with these kids, that they have such pent up aggression? Any ideas? I remember the vid posted awhile ago that showed the HK kid getting beat up, but as bad as it sounds, at least he didn't lose his life.

[a21ozcoldcup]

I think it's this modern, hyper critical, politically correct and sometimes oppressive society that kids grow up in now. Kids are desensitized to so much. I think by pushing so much on to young kids today we are perhaps pushing too much. And yeah with parents treating raising children like more of a chore than as a duty or as something they should take joy in (or whatever you want to say)... it's a whole new breed of kids out there.. kids who are hardly deserving of the title 'child' anymore than say... Hitler or Saddam is deserving of the title 'leader.'

[Squeezer]

I think it's this modern, hyper critical, politically correct and sometimes oppressive society that kids grow up in now. Kids are desensitized to so much. I think by pushing so much on to young kids today we are perhaps pushing too much. And yeah with parents treating raising children like more of a chore than as a duty or as something they should take joy in (or whatever you want to say)... it's a whole new breed of kids out there.. kids who are hardly deserving of the title 'child' anymore than say... Hitler or Saddam is deserving of the title 'leader.'

but Hitler and Saddam were leaders.

[Sleepy Weasel]

did you go to the one at the mall?

No, that one closes at 9. Worst fucking mall ever.

The one on 13S.

[Pearl Jam]

i clicked on this thread hoping that the 14 year old girl was in fact sleepy weasel

[a21ozcoldcup]

but Hitler and Saddam were leaders.

Well then to put it in to a subject we can discuss without offending someone in these forums too terribly:

You probably liked either Bush or Kerry. Take whichever one you think is an idiot, make them the president and then call them a leader. Same concept, different reasons.

If your idea of leaders are people who kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people or oppress millions of others or ethnically cleanse their country of a minority population.. well that's your opinion. But I believe the title 'leader' brings with it a sense of duty and moral obligations that the above mentioned leaders (Saddam and Hitler) chose to ignore.

[RoDNeY]

i mean ive had about maybe the suckiest life ever but man, at least i dont go beating on nobody because of my loss www.freewebs.com/rodstory

[Liquid Blue]

Well then to put it in to a subject we can discuss without offending someone in these forums too terribly:

You probably liked either Bush or Kerry. Take whichever one you think is an idiot, make them the president and then call them a leader. Same concept, different reasons.

If your idea of leaders are people who kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people or oppress millions of others or ethnically cleanse their country of a minority population.. well that's your opinion. But I believe the title 'leader' brings with it a sense of duty and moral obligations that the above mentioned leaders (Saddam and Hitler) chose to ignore.

I think you're confusing words here. IMO:

Hitler- Bad leader
Sadam- Dictator
Bush - greedy asshole

Although we all know hitler was a bad man with evil ambitions, he was none the less a charismatic speaker. He knew what, when and how to say things to get the people of his country riled up into doing what he wanted them to do.

Sadam was a dictator through and through, IMO. I think one of the big differences between Hitler and Sadam are his people's opinion of him. While Hitler was revered by many germans during the time of WW2, Sadam ruled through fear and destruction. Most of his subjects hated him, but were afriad of dying or their loved ones getting hurt.

Bush, is just a greedy asshole. He's not even a leader, and I don't think he ever will be one. Time and time again he's seemed like nothing but a puppet to me, jumping through hoops and being the mascot, the decoy, the shallow face for a couple of higher ups that I don't even really want to think about.

Leaders are people who can bring together a group of people and lead, drive them toward a common goal. Whether this goal be good for mankind or not- well, that's where bad and good leaders come into play. Hitler might have thought that his views were right, but he's a bad leader because he drove millions of people to commit horrific acts all in the name of unifying germany. Good leaders don't need to kill, pillage and murder millions to ensure the safety of their followers. At least in my eyes they don't.

[Mr. Peanuts]

i mean ive had about maybe the suckiest life ever but man, at least i dont go beating on nobody because of my loss www.freewebs.com/rodstory

I can relate to a lot of that. Good read.

[Pandagirl!]

Awww that's so sad