Research 9/11

[Theif of Time]

that which was in the tower still could have provided enough heat to weaken the supports enough for a dominoe effect. So you're conceding that buildings do in fact collapse straight down?

[Pandagirl!]

Tone, just stop taking credit for other people's work. Maybe start thinking for yourself instead of just googling to find out how you feel on a certain topic.
(here's the source from those huge two posts of his)
Clever how you changed the wording of the first line, so it returned no results on google, eh?

[Kolar]

So a 8 story fire, not using the same fuel, not even close to the temperature inside the WTC, no impact damage and you're not taking into account the level at which the fires were or the size of the WTC?

[Jerome Scuggs]

So a 8 story fire, not using the same fuel, not even close to the temperature inside the WTC, no impact damage and you're not taking into account the level at which the fires were or the size of the WTC?

Not to mention the buildings were probably minimally furnished - the WTC was laden with chairs, desks, walls, doors, and people - each little addition adds up to a massive extra weight in the building, cross-apply the infallible Conconian "gravity is a bitch" statement

[Jerome Scuggs]

did you know the second tower to get hit basically got nicked in the corner no where near the center beams and most the fuel spilled out of it on impact? the other tower to a direct hit strait in with all the fuel in their and fell second. im sure the excuse was that the impact on the second was lower

All I'm getting here is a conjectured MSPaint picture that states "all of the jet fuel" left the building. If it hit the corner, than I'll give you maybe one of the wings broke off and out (if this happened, then why didn't they find wing debris or jet fuel deposits near ground zero? according to your pentagon conspiracy theories, there HAS to be debris, there just HAS to!), but still, the other wing went straight into the building.

Anyways the reason the building collapsed is BECAUSE the plane hit off-center, it took out vital perimeter columns which supported the floors themselves, and so the floors started collapsing, and added in with the trauama of fire, heavy impact, and gravity, not even the central beams could stop it (image)

[ZeUs!!]

A more interesting discussion - I think its time to switch alliegances conc?

[Vykromond]

Dr. Gene "Tonecube" Ray

[Tone]

Tone, just stop taking credit for other people's work. Maybe start thinking for yourself instead of just googling to find out how you feel on a certain topic.
(here's the source from those huge two posts of his)
Clever how you changed the wording of the first line, so it returned no results on google, eh?

thats my post, panda, i used to post a lot at GLP.


See here a video of the plane firing a missle into the tower before it impacts

http://www.letsroll911.org/

[Pandagirl!]

OK, and so you just randomly decided to change the first line? You were registered at these forums at that time, and knowing you, you would have posted it here too. Nice try though. :up:

[Jerome Scuggs]

thats my post, panda, i used to post a lot at GLP.


See here a video of the plane firing a missle into the tower before it impacts

http://www.letsroll911.org/

humour me: why would an airplane fire a missile when it itself (a bigger and more fuel-laden thus possibly more explosive) hits an instant later?

[Tone]

OK, and so you just randomly decided to change the first line? You were registered at these forums at that time, and knowing you, you would have posted it here too. Nice try though. :up:

its my post, i changed my notes around all of the time, i have the html file with the right indents (it never pastes with them), i had it on a personal webpage long before that post, and i was registared there as tone before i got banned along with everyone else when that site was taking over by the spyware company lop.com. i rarely used tone and always posted as an A.C. i spent countless hours researching 9/11 and one day i had the idea to make a little note outline with everything compressed as something short with facts to get someones interest to research 9/11

[Tone]

humour me: why would an airplane fire a missile when it itself (a bigger and more fuel-laden thus possibly more explosive) hits an instant later?

excellent question, now you are asking good 9/11 questions

heres a list over over 200 9/11 questions

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911q.html

Agency planned drill for plane crash last Sept. 11
Associated Press
August 22, 2002

WASHINGTON -- In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft crashed into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism -- it was to be a simulated accident.

Officials at the Chantilly, Va.-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet crashed into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure.

The agency is about four miles from the runways of Washington Dulles International Airport.

Agency chiefs came up with the scenario to test employees' ability to respond to a disaster, said spokesman Art Haubold. To simulate the damage from the plane, some stairwells and exits were to be closed off, forcing employees to find other ways to evacuate the building.

"It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility," Haubold said. "As soon as the real world events began, we canceled the exercise."

Terrorism was to play no role in the exercise, which had been planned for several months, he said.

Adding to the coincidence, American Airlines Flight 77 -- the Boeing 767 that was hijacked and crashed into the Pentagon -- took off from Dulles at 8:10 a.m. on Sept. 11, 50 minutes before the exercise was to begin. It struck the Pentagon around 9:40 a.m., killing 64 aboard the plane and 125 on the ground.

The National Reconnaissance Office operates many of the nation's spy satellites. It draws its personnel from the military and the CIA.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, most of the 3,000 people who work at agency headquarters were sent home, save for some essential personnel, Haubold said.

An announcement for an upcoming homeland security conference in Chicago first noted the exercise.

In a promotion for speaker John Fulton, a CIA officer assigned as chief of NRO's strategic gaming division, the announcement says, "On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team ... were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day."

The conference is being run by the National Law Enforcement and Security Institute.

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[Ilya]

this thread was good on page 2

[Theif of Time]

Tone, can you please actually ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION? rather than post links to articles and quote articles. (especially since they don't even answer the question) In your own words, please. Links are all very well as backup evidence but I'd prefer it if you used the link to try prove something rather than just linking for linking's sake.
BTW, could you please prove that buildings are not built to collapse straight down?