Research 9/11

[Tone]

Yes, I heard the fucking voice on CNN of the guy saying shit like "Tell my wife I love her." and "We're gonna try to land this thing."

There is fucking proof, you're just so damn obsessed with finding something that isn't there, that you look past cold hard facts.

right, it wasnt a fabricated recording just like the edited bin laden tapes, right?

[Squeezer]

right, it wasnt a fabricated recording just like the edited bin laden tapes, right?

I'll tell ya what. Let's both just pretend like we didn't read Kolar's post OK?

It makes your arguments seem a little more substantial that way.

[Tone]

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf

search for 'Pearl Harbor' in the above PDF. skim some other parts. this is before 9/11

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take a look around

home page: http://www.newamericancentury.org

[PH]

[Theif of Time]

I see reflections in his hat (Degenerates to not caring anymore. I have 2 exams in the next 3 days.)

[Shas'la T'au Kais]

What's a cucumber error?

[Theif of Time]

Similar to an out of cheese error. It's like, divide by 0 error, (infinity) except 0 is a cucumber.

[DoTheFandango]

Does anyone else want to have Tone violently throat raped by a black dude?

PS: x/0 != infinity. X/0 is undefined.

[Chingy]

I am too lazy to read through all the pages so just summarize for me why we are flaming Tone. Is it because he is opposing Bush? PLEASE INFORM ME

[Theif of Time]

He posts 'evidence' from questionable/conspiracy theorist sources, other people post evidence from their own sources, Tone denies other peoples evidence whilst backing up his own with yet more conspiracy theories. He also simply ignores any arguments his sources cannot 'counter' (Not that they do too well anyway). Oh, and he pretty much posts the entire article he linked to in [quote] tags, which gets annoying after the first few tries.
And one of his most reliable sources is an economist trying to be an engineer. WHile other peoples most reliable sources are engineers being engineers.
I also oppose Bush, but I don't think that he masterminded the 911 attacks.

[Tone]

[QUOTE=Theif of Time]He posts 'evidence' from questionable/conspiracy theorist sources, other people post evidence from their own sources, Tone denies other peoples evidence whilst backing up his own with yet more conspiracy theories. He also simply ignores any arguments his sources cannot 'counter' (Not that they do too well anyway). Oh, and he pretty much posts the entire article he linked to in

tags, which gets annoying after the first few tries.
And one of his most reliable sources is an economist trying to be an engineer. WHile other peoples most reliable sources are engineers being engineers.
I also oppose Bush, but I don't think that he masterminded the 911 attacks.

I have barely scratched the surface here, other government insiders came right out and said there were plans to stage hijack planes, and fly them into buildings, one as early as the 70s. stanley hilton back in the 60s did his thesis on how to create police state by staged terrorist attacks. members of PNAC include rumsfield, chaney, wofowitz, kristol, and PNAC stated in one of their papers in Dec of 2000 that a new pearl harbor is needed for action in the middle east, 'rebuilding america's defences' and farther promoting america as a 'leader'. after all this, 9.11 occured and thousands of holes of which i barely scratched on this thread were found in the offical story. ask your self, who benefits from 9/11?

[Bob (SRB)]

From my non-objective opinion (most of you just hate tone because he got the weasel changed, I however, couldn't give two shits. Or you are just followers of some of the forum junkies like pure hatred who hates tone) I can not possibly understand why some of you fucking morons end up replying to tone, bashing him and calling him a moron etc. On this thread alone he has put a huge load of evidence (may not be too credible, but hey) on the table, and backed up his stories FAR more than any of you opposing him. Hell, I'd come close to believing him for the way he makes an argument alone, especially when most of the replies end up sounding like "WTF u R a FAGGET tone why you get rid of weesels!!!1 u don no anyting about 9/111, DOUCHEBAG@!!" Even if what he's arguing is a bit far fetched, especially to a whole load of patriotic Americans, it is obvious that he's a lot smarter than most of you.

What a lot of you don't realize is that you are getting most of your arguments from FOX NEWS or CNN which are extremely biased american channels, which, if there actually was a government conspiracy, would obviously be spewing out the most propaghanda to make the story sound believable. While I'm no conspiracy theorist, I'm just saying that you should put your personal hatred for tone aside and maybe don't be so quick to believe news affiliated with a regime as deceptive and underhanded as Bush's.

To me this is kind of like a court case, what tone is arguing for might not be right, but he sure as hell is doing a better job of justifying his position than any of you opposing him (except ewan with those 2 websites).

[Ilya]

the only part of your post i read was "most of you just hate tone because he got the weasel changed" and "he sure as hell is doing a better job of justifying his position than any of you opposing him" and both of these are wrong as fuck, so i guess your whole post is wrong and you dont really know what you're talking about (no offense).

[Liquid Blue]

Hell, I'd come close to believing him for the way he makes an argument alone, especially when most of the replies end up sounding like "WTF u R a FAGGET tone why you get rid of weesels!!!1 u don no anyting about 9/111, DOUCHEBAG@!!" Even if what he's arguing is a bit far fetched, especially to a whole load of patriotic Americans, it is obvious that he's a lot smarter than most of you.

How many people have talked about weasels in this topic? Alot of the ones defending him on this subject are the only ones bringing it up- I see alot of negative comments going towards him here about the validity of his sites, how he puts out far fetched ideas and refuses to even consider others, and how he belittles those who don't agree with him. It's not that the americans in this topic are being patriotic, they just aren't falling straight away for the paranoid ideal that the government is the cause of every single bad thing in life, or every single bad disaster. Everyone here knows governments are shady (yes parts of your canadian government included) - but that doesn't mean that everything in the world or every situation, disaster or loss of human life is tied to the government. If he was alot smarter than even 1/4 of the people here, he wouldn't resort to copying and pasting huge blocks of text to prove his point- he should be able to grasp the information he reads and feed it back to us in his own words, and in a short and concise manner.

What a lot of you don't realize is that you are getting most of your arguments from FOX NEWS or CNN which are extremely biased american channels, which, if there actually was a government conspiracy, would obviously be spewing out the most propaghanda to make the story sound believable.

Where did you get the idea that they are getting their arguments from fox news or cnn? Just from skimming a few pages I saw links to MIT, Popular mechanics and that sort of thing. I know it's hard to grasp, but not all americans tote shotguns and bibles, watch fox news and praise bush. It's ok, like you awesome cousins of the north, we realize there are other outlets of information to get our news from.

e. While I'm no conspiracy theorist, I'm just saying that you should put your personal hatred for tone aside and maybe don't be so quick to believe news affiliated with a regime as deceptive and underhanded as Bush's.

While I'm not that interested in this 9/11 debate, I'm just saying you should put aside your personal ignorance and blind assumptions about americans and read more of the posts here. Don't be so quick to believe that the people here are disagreeing because he doesn't like weasels, or because they are super patriotic. Yes, for the last time, Bush sucks, we get it already. He sucks and his buddies in the government suck, but posting links to tinfoil hat sites, pasting large theories of other people and looking down on those who don't agree is not the way to "persuade" anyone.

O canada, o canada, why do your people treat me so wrong

[Kolar]

His methods, logic and ideas are completely out of this world. He's ignoring things, mostly whenever I post on here and continues to post his discredited and crappy sourced material. No, we're not looking at CNN and calling Tone a dumbass (maybe you should keep up with the thread before you want to make judgments Bob), we're looking at the facts, the people involved and the professionals making statments and in the end the plausibility and logic of the different sinerios. Could Bush and Co. be involved it in, there's a chance of it but not in the way tone has spelled it out, ever. If he said there was a connection between the planes and the Bush Admin. and not some half ass discredited and unbelievable story about bombs inside the WTC i'm sure he'd get a lot more people here not calling him a shit head, hell I'd probably even consider his bullshit then.

As for the hatred, look at him. He believe he's above everyone here, he beleives we should all know, think and believe in what he does and really, when his shit is about ignoring facts and making up half ass conspires.... My respect and ability to work and even know about people like him only goes so far. I wouldn't call someone who's closed minded, annoying and an ass to everyone not like him "smart", he's posting a few unreliable sites and is piecing his theroy together from circumstantial stories that makes no sense, it's not enough anyone to believe in and it's not worth anyones time to be looking at.

We love ya Liquid :P. Most Canadians are not happy about foreign policy, church and state issues and other things like that but mostly and we don't hate Americans.. only fundamentalist and the people who would give them power.