London Police Murder Innocent Civilian

[Subjugation]

Fixed.

[Lucon]

Well, in a country where police officers hardly ever carry guns, if I were the man, I would assume the so called officer was actually a psycho trying to get me to stop so he could shoot me. But this is still tragic, I don't know what's going on in London right now.

[Reclusion]

If this was in public (where a lot of people were), would it not stand to suffice that common criminals wouldn't be brandishing weapons and conducting random shootings where said crowd could identify them?

Like has been said above, it's tragic that this guy died and all, but he goofed.

[Rab]

**And murdering people.

spider, imagine what the man could have done... he didnt obey police instruction.

blame the terrorists.

[schope]

you know, here in brazil if a police officer points a gun to you, you should run else you get shot. maybe the guy just forgot he was in england

[Mulkero]

If you have guys with machine guns yelling "Police, STOP!" you drop, put your hands on the ground away from your body, don't move and shut the fuck up. This man ran from them, deeper into the underground area where more people were.

I liked to episode of FG from which you've gotten your avatar. And I also agree.

[NaiLed]

What other alternative did the policeman(men?) have? He ran away after police warnign to tell him to stop. Should they have let him run onto the train so he could potentially blow up maybe tens of people? The only thing that they could do was stop him where he was.

[Mr. Peanuts]

Yeah, just think about the possible consequences if he was strapped to a bomb and they hadnt shot him dead.

[Troll King]

What other alternative did the policeman(men?) have? He ran away after police warnign to tell him to stop. Should they have let him run onto the train so he could potentially blow up maybe tens of people? The only thing that they could do was stop him where he was.

According to reports I read, and please correct me if the details have since changed, the man was shot after being pinned by police because of fears that he could have detonated a potential bomb if he was still conscious.

[NaiLed]

Oh yeah. I remember hearing that they bundled him to the ground then shot him. i stand corrected (said the man in the orthopaedic shoes)

[Mr. Peanuts]

+2 cool points on the AP quote

[Sarien]

Sweet. I now know that questions can be incorrect.

Indeed! I now know you're just being juvenile and would just rather not say "oh, I didn't realize that."

But just in case:
["Evading capture" assumes the suspect was aware that he was fleeing from authorities and not criminals claiming to be authorities.] (Incorrect Statement)
[Was it clear to everyone around that these guys were cops?] (Question)

[Arikel]

Ok first of all i guess most of us here have never had a machine gun pointed to the head so we would never know how we would react... it's sad the police had to resort to that kind of tactic to imobilize someone running from a "Police STOP" warning... i guess that kind of situation is another side effect of terrorist bombings, everyone is nervous, even trained professionals. I think i can understand both sides of the situation but i would definitely punish a police officer that murders an innocent civilian for not stoping... and i would probably deem responsible the guys that gave cops the authorization to shoot on sight after such a traumatic event, the effort to prevent terrorism should not be made felt directly on the streets because such measures only make the civilians more nervous and also make the terrorists felt like they accomplished something... effort should be made by the secret services and not by the common police.

[Subjugation]

Indeed! I now know you're just being juvenile and would just rather not say "oh, I didn't realize that."

But just in case:
["Evading capture" assumes the suspect was aware that he was fleeing from authorities and not criminals claiming to be authorities.] (Incorrect Statement)
[Was it clear to everyone around that these guys were cops?] (Question)

Seriously...please don't be an asshole. This isn't 24, and these guys aren't Jack Fucking Bauer.

The circumstances surrounding this whole event are obviously unclear. For you to be so cock-in-fist sure about this guy deserving his fate is ridiculous, actually. At the very least, there's a lot of question marks raised by this event.

*The cops were not in uniform. (reported by media)

*The victim was only in UK for 3 years. (reported by media)

*The victim was Brazillian (reported by media), so it's possible he may not have been fluent in the language.

*The victim was "pinned to the ground" then shot. (reported by media)

*According to the victim's cousin, the victim owned a multi-day pass, and if his statement is not untrue, why would he "jump the barricade"? (cousin's statement reported by media)

*The authorities have admitted there was no link between the victim and the crime, and the only reason for having suspected him is the same building he was from was under surveillance, and wearing a heavy coat in 70 degree weather. (reported by media)

It's not that "I'm being juvenile and should have just said, 'I didn't realize that'", it's that I don't agree with you. I don't think that it's suddenly ok for any cops, British or American to just go around shooting suspects just for wearing coats in cool weather and running away from them. Especially when they have the suspect on the ground, already. I've work a coat plenty of times in 70 degree weather, especially if I was planning on being out late that night.

[ZeUs!!]

Don't EVER run for a train in London, we're pretty tough on fare dodging here