Kundalini / Chakras

[SpiderMage]

Martial arts are also good for being calmer/more disciplined.

Kinda funny how a thing like martial arts, which teaches you fighting/defense skills also can make you a much calmer person.

[Mr. Peanuts]

I just lie on my bed and think about practically everything, and come up with quite good solutions to a lot of problems.

[Dealt]

Kinda funny how a thing like martial arts, which teaches you fighting/defense skills also can make you a much calmer person.

you're only calm because you know if something does come up.. you can kick its ass.

[code]

I have heard that using drugs, including ecstasy, can damage the crown chakra. (third eye)

Drugs in general blow the crown chakra wide open. Highly chemical based drugs like XTC probably would do damage.

[Tanzu]

I noticed it wasnt a real article when i saw two "many" in a row

[1ight]

There have many many religion threads in general discussion, how about a spiritual thread now?

And I persume that some of them have been related to Christianity. To be honest, Christianity has alot of spiritual content, if you didn't know. For an example The Holy Ghost/Spriti given to us as a helper, after the death and rise of Yeshua/Jesus Christ. Also by the Holy Spirit we receive spiritual gifts, as talking in touges, heal.. actually I'll just give you the place in the bible that talks about these gifts:

1 cor. 12:8-11

For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another, the word of knowledge by the same Spirit. To another, faith by the same Spirit; to another, the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another, the working of miracles; to another, prophecy; to another, discerning of spirits; to another, [divers] kinds of languages (given the ability to speak in unknown languages); to another, the interpretation of languages (the ability to interpret what is being said, when speaking in touges): All these are inspired by one and the same Spirit(The Holy Spirit), who apportions to each one individually as he wills.

The Holy Spirit is something all those who accept Jesus into thier life will receive.

The chapter 12 in the 1. Corinthians has always been one among many places in the bible, that I can see that those words have become real in my life. Since I've have received many of those gifts listed above. Tho thats not all the gifts that is given by the Holy Spirit. If you are intrested in checking out what actually gifts are given by the Holy Spirit, you should check out this site: http://www.new-life.net/sprtgift.htm .

[RoDNeY]

i believe that says it all

[Marduke]

Well I consider myself a Christian too, however not a typical mainstream Christian.

L1ght, I agree with you about spiritual content within christianity. T0NE making a distinction between religion and spirituality is not good. Since a Religion needs spirituality in order for someone to have faith in it. I mean the whole point of Christianity, is that Jesus offers eternal life and grace; without this, whats the point.

But my question, is it ok for a christian to look into Chakras/Kundalini information to understand more about spirituality? I know some christians would say this stuff is bad wisdom/knowledge and may led you astray. But I think the Truth of Spirituality wasn't just in 1 place in the world (Israel), other cultures should be considered too.

Back 1500-2000 years ago, other remote places in the world never heard of christ, will they goto hell for this? I think not, God manifests himself fairly to every soul that comes into this world, If this wasn't the case then we don't have a fair god.

Some of you 3D boxworld types, will think this is all rubbish, but remember not all the answers are in Science in explaining the Universe; only some answers. Metaphysics seems like bunk, but who knows some of the answers about the Universe may reside in there as well.

[Lucon]

Your religion is incorrect anyway, I wouldn't worry about stuff like that.

[1ight]

But my question, is it ok for a christian to look into Chakras/Kundalini information to understand more about spirituality? I know some christians would say this stuff is bad wisdom/knowledge and may led you astray. But I think the Truth of Spirituality wasn't just in 1 place in the world (Israel), other cultures should be considered too.

Well first of all, Israel isn't the core to spiritually, the people of Israel is God's choosen. But Israel itself as nothing to do with spirituality. The spirituality I'm talking about, a Christian's spiritual world, is what is written in the bible, about the Holy Spirit and lots of other things, written in the bible. I think it is not wrong to look into text about other spiritualities, so as known as other forces spirit or whatsoever. But in the bible there is quite many places that talk about other gods, and what they are etc etc. So searching for Jesus with some other spiritual force is wrong. Tho I wouldn't recommend as a Christian to read about other spiritualities, if you are not 100% sure that it is God's will that you need to learn about that type of spirituality. Else I, as Christian try to stay as focus on Jesus Christ, since I know what the other spiritual forces are and what they stand for. As I sai the bible states these things quite clearly.

And one thing more, why would you as a Christian want to look into some other spirituality to understand spirituality? Isn't that the same thing as saying, "Hey lets go there and pray to other gods to seek God". Doesn't quite sound so good does it, as a Christian?

Thats my thoughts, and as a Christian I hope you test my words with the bible.

[Tone]

Back 1500-2000 years ago, other remote places in the world never heard of christ, will they goto hell for this? I think not, God manifests himself fairly to every soul that comes into this world, If this wasn't the case then we don't have a fair god.

None ever reply to this type of argument, ive already tried 3 or 4 times in the other thread. if you were born before christ, never heard of christ, or even heard of christ but are born in an area where he is less popular and overshadowed by something else, then you are just unlucky and go to hell.

But my question, is it ok for a christian to look into Chakras/Kundalini information to understand more about spirituality? I know some christians would say this stuff is bad wisdom/knowledge and may led you astray. But I think the Truth of Spirituality wasn't just in 1 place in the world (Israel), other cultures should be considered too.

you may use the bible as toilet paper to wipe your ass and still be the holiest man on earth.

[Marduke]

I just think it is totally unfair for someone that has never heard of christ, because they were too far from areas which have; to be thrown into hell for that.

I has this question to a someone on a prayer line, and they told me if a remote area hasn't heard of christ, God will give them an equal chance.

And this is where my argument stands, if God is revealed in other cultures but under a different name, then shouldn't this be taken into consideration? Perhaps other cultures offer a wealth of wisdom and knowledge.

As for l1ght questioning my christianity, well you have no right, only God will judge. I have a firm foundation in christianity and when I read occult material I'am quite safe about it not destroying my core beliefs. The bible only goes thru the basics or most important issues between God and humans. It doesn't get into extreme detail regarding spirituality. Like in the Bible it says we have a soul, spirit body, and physical body; then it ends there.
But this chakra/kundalini stuff goes into more detail which I find interesting and possibly true. Is it a sin to think this may be true? Now, if I get into worshiping other Gods, then yeah thats a sin.

Like I said, I'm not a mainstream christian, and only believe in the core truths of the bible. There is many interpretations of the bible and some organizations use/twist them to their advantage for other reasons.

L1ght, as for Israel, well I meant it had a big influence on Christianity since the main people were Jewish. But people that lived in the New World (like incas, mayans) or far off Asian, never heard of Jesus Christ till many years after christ left this earth. So all those people that never had a legit opportunity to hear Christ's word, do they goto hell? I don't think God is this unfair.

Most people are just simply born into their religion. Like if I was born in IRAN, there is a strong chance I would be a moslem.

I just believe you must question and understand everything you believe in. Constantly, your beliefs should be tested to prove if in fact it is the truth. If you don't do this, then you are just a mindless naive sheep that believes anything you hear.

[Lucon]

Yeah, the whole faith is full of contradictions and inherently incorrect, shut up about it.

[Lucon]

Edit: Except for that stuff about loving your neighbor, giving to charity, and generally be compassionate. That stuff was good.

[1ight]

[quote=Marduke]
As for l1ght questioning my christianity, well you have no right, only God will judge.
[quote]
I don't know if I was questioning or if it was more of concernment towards my brother in Christ. Yes, God is the judge, also His words judges. I'm just wondering, what is so intresting in other spiritualities, when the bible, God's words states clearly what other spiritulities is.

I just want to point this bible place out, since the context concearns about eating things that is a sacrifice to a idol, someone that is not God. When we are talking about a other understanding of spirituality, that is not from the bible. And as a Christian, you should be aware what other spirits/spirituality is.

1 Cor. 8:4-6,9
-- concerning then the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that an idol [is] nothing in [the] world, and that there [is] no other God save one. For and if indeed there are [those] called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, (as there are gods many, and lords many,) yet to us [there is] one God, the Father, of whom all things, and *we* for him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and *we* by him. But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours should become a stumbling-block to them that are weak.

I mean, if you think its true, don't you consider the teaching that does not come from the bible is also true?

All I want is that you understand what I'm trying to say, also I know you have your liberty to do as you choose.

I hope God will correct me if my mind and thoughts are not correct to His words, and His will in my life. So I hope you have no hard feelings.