Political Bans In Metal Gear

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Kolar & Tone

[Tone]

Welcome Spin Sanity

I must come out of retirement for a moment to welcome Spinsanity to the trenchwars forums!

Rule 12 is basically like how the USA Patriot Act set up wide open and ambiguous protocol for defining what a 'terrorist' is(*1). I myself was banned here for articles relating to the topic of the thread, many of them my own threads, while at the same time people like Ilya and PH are allowed countless spamming. Ever since i started the Research 9/11 thread with a BBC News Article(*2) mentioning how many of the so called 19 hijackers were confirmed alive and well, i was called a whacko who has a warped view of reality and promoter of outlandish 'conspiracy' sites with 'no proof'. it didnt matter that i showed that 20 other mainstream news stories said the same thing(*3). spin im afraid many react irrationally when it comes to sensitive topics and the truth, its just the way it is it seems. if there is a method to be discovered that avoids this, i will let you know

*refs
(1) patriot act analysis http://www.infowars.com/print/patrio...s_analysis.htm
(2) see BBC on alive hijackers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/mid...st/1559151.stm
(3) 20 mainstream sources say hijackers confirmed alive, some contacted , see: http://www.welfarestate.com/911

[Kolar]

If you get a network ban (and that's not so far away) the council will do one of two things:

1.) Nothing
2.) Support Testtube and hopfully TW staff.

You have no idea how to talk about poltics. You're only in SS to annoy people and to annoy people further by posting on this forum.


The SSC network needs a No tolerance rule for macro spamming shit disturbers, that would fix everything here. Also the Nazi connection is old and cheapens discussion, political or not. Please stop it. This is a game, grow the fuck up or at least start reading what people say, if you didn't want to get banned then 3 months of warning is long enough to listen and shut up or at least question the staffer.

[Spin]

Kolar??

Is this the same Kolar I talk to in TW? We talk all the time, you never behave this way to me.
spin

[Kolar]

Is this the same Kolar I talk to in TW? We talk all the time, you never behave this way to me.
spin

I'm okay with your message and views but not with the way you express it.

Because you never actually talk or interact with anyone who has an opposing view of poltics or an opposing view of how we should take part in it, I decided not to bother doing either in game.

Edit: I think I talked to you once, not all the time. I agreed with one of your statements but I also told you what I'm saying now. You also you told me I'm Canadian and shouldn't be talking about American politics.

[PH]

[Troll King]

Wait, I'm confused: do people actually think that Spin was banned for his political views? I thought it was just for spamming. If someone was spamming stuff in support of Bush, he'd probably have been banned then too.

[Kolar]

Wait, I'm confused: do people actually think that Spin was banned for his political views? I thought it was just for spamming. If someone was spamming stuff in support of Bush, he'd probably have been banned then too.

No only him, T0NE and maybe Trancetunes..

And the ACLU, if they ever hear of this.

[Troll King]

Oh good, so most people aren't deluded.

[pv=nrt]

I still don't understand what the random photoshopped pictues of bush have to do with anything that spin is rambling about.

[DoTheFandango]

Oh look, a Photoshopped picture of Bush as Hitler.

VERY ORIGINAL!

[Spin]

troll king

1. Yes I was banned due my political views and not for spamming.
2. Politacal chat in Metal Gear will earn you a ban.
3. I bet you are right, someone talking about bush in a positive light (very hard to do honestly) would not face the same punishment.


BOOKS ARE NOT THE ONLY THING SOME TRY TO LIMIT!

troll king, as you know... what I do is simply inform, AND THERE IS ALOT to inform people in America about, and it is sad that this information often directly contradicts Bush's version that is often proved wrong later.. after the dammage is done!

A few examples...

I heard that Condoleezza Rice asked: "How do you capitalize on these opportunities?"

I heard the President say that Iraq is "a threat of unique urgency," and that there is "no doubt the Iraqi regime continues to possess the most lethal weapons ever devised."

I heard the Vice President say: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

I heard the President tell Congress, "The danger to our country is grave. The danger to our country is growing. The regime is seeking a nuclear bomb, and with fissile material, could build one within a year."

And that same day, I heard him say: "The dangers we face will only worsen from month to month and from year to year. To ignore these threats is to encourage them. And when they have fully materialized it may be too late to protect ourselves and our friends and our allies. By then the Iraqi dictator would have the means to terrorize and dominate the region. Each passing day could be the one on which the Iraqi regime gives anthrax or VX-nerve gas-or some day a nuclear weapon to a terrorist ally."

I heard the President, in the State of the Union Address, say that Iraq was hiding 25,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, and 500 tons of sarin, mustard, and nerve gas. I heard the President say that Iraq had attempted to purchase uranium-later specified as "yellowcake" uranium oxide from Niger-and thousands of aluminum tubes "suitable for nuclear weapons production."

I heard the Vice President say: "We know that he's been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." I heard the President say: "Imagine those nineteen hijackers with other weapons and other plans-this time armed by Saddam Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known."

I heard Donald Rumsfeld say: "Some have argued that the nuclear threat from Iraq is not imminent. I would not be so certain."

I heard the President say: "America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof-the smoking gun-that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

I heard Condoleezza Rice say: "We don't want the 'smoking gun' to be a mushroom cloud."

I heard the American Ambassador to the European Union tell the Europeans: "You had Hitler in Europe and no one really did anything about him. The same type of person is in Baghdad."

I heard Colin Powell at the United Nations say: "They can produce enough dry biological agent in a single month to kill thousands upon thousands of people. Saddam Hussein has never accounted for vast amounts of chemical weaponry: 550 artillery shells with mustard gas, 30,000 empty munitions, and enough precursors to increase his stockpile to as much as 500 tons of chemical agents. Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical-weapons agent. Even the low end of 100 tons of agent would enable Saddam Hussein to cause mass casualties across more than 100 square miles of territory, an area nearly five times the size of Manhattan."

FROM - http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0416-20.htm

Troll King- I BET you heard the same, didn't you?
Troll King- What was said above was not true.
Troll King- The dammage is done.
Troll King- Where did you hear what was said above stated as fact?
Troll King- Who told you in Sub Space that was hog wash?

Answer - Me and others in public chat.
Troll King - who lied? and where did you hear the truth? and WHY is sub space a source for truth, why is it not the sources that should of said the truth when it was available?


Yes, Public chat sometimes leads to questions you should be asking yourself... to bad some would take this away from you :/

[Spin]

good point tone

What a day to respond to tone's points!

And remember, GW Bush may be a lame duck... But the danger is the neo-conservatives Bush works for will simply find another front man to ram down our throats... MAYBE even Jeb!





How many years now?, and the FBI has not updated the hijacker list, and yes, some of the people on the hijacker list are alive and yes the FBI has commented on this, but no, the FBI has not updated the list.

BTW, thank you tone!
spin

[DoTheFandango]

1. Yes I was banned due my political views and not for spamming.
2. Politacal chat in Metal Gear will earn you a ban.
3. I bet you are right, someone talking about bush in a positive light (very hard to do honestly) would not face the same punishment.

You misread him, which I am sure you do alot.

Wait, I'm confused: do people actually think that Spin was banned for his political views? I thought it was just for spamming. If someone was spamming stuff in support of Bush, he'd probably have been banned then too.

Spamming here in TW is against the rules. So are offensive images. Bye.

[Spin]

One more time...

Metal Gear Bans people for political chat... this coming from TestTube
Metal Gear also warns the pub to discontinue political chat in a Green message for the whole pub.