Ultimate Fighter?

[R1pp3r]

Tyson’s lack of talent? Ha ha good one. If you don’t think Tyson is a talented boxer then you don’t know much about the sport. Also, He had great speed or quickness, as you called it and the power in his punches was amazing. He also was a very smart fighter in great condition. You think you can become the best without being talented? Tyson knows how hard you have to train to become the best. If he would train low kicks and how to fight versus kick boxers then he could do awesome in K-1. Frans Botha is a boxer who owned many good fighters in K-1 and Tyson knocked this guy out pretty hard in the ring before.

Anyway, you haven’t even seen a K-1 fight. There is no ground fighting, grappling or whatever. You don’t seem to have a clue what you are talking about.

[Subjugation]

Whatever, kid. I never claimed to be a K-1 expert, I just said I know what it is.

The difference is you are trying to act like you are an accurate judge of boxing talent when it's no secret that Tyson is a washed up has-been and can't even get a legitimate fight booked anymore. How have his last few fights gone? He's gotten destroyed by NOBODIES.

Sure, Tyson had talent---in the 90's. He WAS the best. Now, he ain't shit. If he had any actual fighting skill left, he wouldn't resort to biting off earlobes and trying to break people's arms in the ring when he's getting his ass kicked.

So, why is he broke if he still has the talent to justify a seven figure contract? He was trying to do PORN this year, for christ's sake. His boxing career is done. Deal with it.

[R1pp3r]

Yes, I agree that his boxing career is over, but as with Botha who switched to competing in the K-1 managed to do great. Anyway, it was never a discussion whether his boxing career was over or not. I never said Tyson was as good as he used to be or even close to it, but to say his talent just vanished is bullshit. Tyson is a boxing veteran who got knockout punches. Most of the Kick boxers don’t have his level of skill or the experience.

Yes, you didn’t claim to be a K-1 expert but you said you knew what it was, which you clearly didn’t. In fact, you have no clue at all; you haven’t even seen a K-1 fight. So why are you even predicting whether or not he could do well in K-1. It’s like when you called me a kid without even really knowing my age, or was it just a lame attempt of insulting me? Either way dude your full of it.

The reason he is broke doesn’t have too much to do with his skills either. Many people tricked him or whatever, especially Don King.

You shouldn’t speak too much of things you know very little about, and you should take that arrogant attitude of yours and shove it up with the rest of your shit.

[Subjugation]

It seems that you took my initial comment about Tyson sucking personally, since it contradicted the comment that you have since edited out of your post. I wasn't trying to attack you, and after re-reading it, I really don't see why you took it personally. I just disagree with your assessment of Tyson's current abilities.

On the other hand, if you're trying to say that since I haven't seen any of the K-1 fights firsthand, I don't have enough knowledge to discuss matchups, then that's a valid argument. However, unless K-1 is not very competetive, and its fighters have very little talent, judging the way Tyson has gotten his ass whipped in his last two fights (yes, I saw them both), he does not stand a chance against another moderately talented fighter. Especially against someone who uses an unusual fighting style, and one who is young and quick.

The only fights he's won in the last 5 years have all been against shills. The last decent fighter he's beaten was Golata back in 2000 (and it got changed to a NC due to a drug disqualification). And that fight against Botha was almost EIGHT years ago! Since 1996, his record is 5 and 5, with two disqualifications. He will undoubtedly go down as one of the most famous boxers in the history of the sport, but you're living in the past....HE'S FORTY YEARS OLD!

But unless I'm wrong about K-1 being an MMA competition, then it would seem I do know what it is. And the fact that you've been trying to argue that I don't know what it is proves you really have no interest in a discussion about competetive fighting. Your ego is on auto-pilot.

So if you want to continue this petty back-and-forth pissing contest, feel free to continue without me. I'm over it.