Myths - Babylon - Iraq - Real Motivate for Invasion

[Ilya]

[Zerzera]

im gonna go to a board game that i grew up with. Risk. do you remember playin with your friends and you would always have mutual boarders? those boarders lasted until it was strategicly wise to encroach. this was natural progression and what made the game so damn addicting. anyways in the end who won....the person who controlled the most territory (or in this thread oil\resource). no religion involved\necessary. babylon?=saddams mistake\problem. to run the greatest country in the world costs resource. and i dont know about you, but i enjoy the luxury in this country, and am willing to fight for it. where some would desperately seek answers for it to be wrong as to avoid getting really involved. just my opinion though. but may i ask this : if the usa were to somehow be invaded would you raise a weapon or expect me to do it?

Funny how you try to capture the entire world and it's complexity in a game that was solely about gaining territory. Man I don't even know where to begin.
You give other people the right to kill you because you would kill them, you only count on being the one to kill first. You are basicly Hitler.

And you should concider that in time of war there are some countries that could easily outdo the US in producing weapons, it's just a matter at what cost you want to produce something that will only be used against humanity.

[WuTang420]

wow, never been called hitler b4. that stings. serious. and hey, we tryed to play nice and saddam told us to shove it, told the entire united nations that he didnt have to listen to international law, didnt allow inspections till he had time to hide his shit, man he was askin for it, especially knowing who our prez was, dumb manuver on his part

PS: i hope for a draft so people like tone can dodge it and get put in prison.

[Zerzera]

Hitler also told his people that the other countries attacked first. I guess Europeans are priviledged to have a history to learn from.

[WuTang420]

hitler was a facist. im asking kindly and respectfully that i not be compared to him.
edit: btw my grandfather fought to free europe from hitler, yes he flew his ass 1\2 way around the world to save your ass. as would i b\c you are (or should be) my ally. so if it wasnt for people like him and myself, instead of typing in this forum, you would be busy with shouting a "ZIEG HEIL!"

[Zerzera]

Wow, I call you Hitler and the only thing you take distance from is the fact that he was a fascist.
So to you, having the opinion that it's ok to kill anyone based on things as religion (or the fact that their country has recourse you can use) is not as bad as the fact of being against a democracy?
And that from someone who has a militair state of mind, I never heard of democracy inside of an army. It would be fun to see soldiers discuss during a battle wether a certain manouvre is the best option.

[Zerzera]

And I would like to add that it really seems that your country's governing comes alot closer to facism than the current goverment of Germany.

[WuTang420]

soldiers dont discuss it. we have strategists for that. and damn good ones at that.

[Zerzera]

So it would be better to abandon democracy and have damn good strategists in control? The key to a good country is an unbeatable army willing to attack any territory for resources?

[WuTang420]

anyways, next time shit goes down in europe, im sure we'll get the call to come help. and i will, even though you guys will probly talk down on us afterwards, if not about our motivation for attack, im sure ull find something to bitch about. you couldnt just say "hey, thx for chillin those cats out". no we are bound to do something thatll piss the hippys off. man i just cant win...

[Zerzera]

When was Europe attacked by forces outside Europe for the last time? You never really helped Europe, you just picked a side (the good one). But basicly the only reason you picked that side was because the other side would be a threat to you.
The Roman empire already taught us that agressors can't win a territory for them, they can only occupy it for a certain amount of time.

[WuTang420]

u mean to tell me we didnt help fight hitler for moral reasons? we just picked the winning side?!?

as we stormed normandy, what do you think the soldiers were fighting for? do you EVER see bravery and resolve enough to rush against turrett guns UPHILL to simply be on the winning side? no. those men died defending the freedom of others. that was NOT a strategic move, it was an extremely honorable one. look at these pics. tell me those men were dying for anyting besides to free the people of europe from opression. if you cant appreciate what we did to save your ass, so be it. if it happened again I would personally still come save your ass even though you wouldnt care, simply because its the right thing to do.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....h/hps-ww2.html

[WuTang420]

ill bet she appreciated it. seeing as shes still alive thx to us.

http://www.archives.gov/research/ww2...es/ww2-183.jpg

[WuTang420]

hey see the kid 2nd from left? (by coaches right hand)? that is my grandfather John Bruce Sherk. he served 2 and 1\2 years defending europe from hitler. thank him if you should ever be so honored as to meet him. explain to him why you think he was there if you want your ass kicked by an 80yr old.

http://members.aol.com/pattonpool/photos/photo158.jpg

[Zerzera]

agression is circular, so 'you' saved people's lives by letting alot of young men suicide on a normany beach. I don't say Hitler was right, I am just saying that you are just as wrong as him.