Muslims question the holocaust

[D1st0rt]

Excerpt from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Examina...locaust_denial

"They'll cite a historical text: 'K.K. Campbell says on page 82 of his famous book that nobody died at Auschwitz.' Then you go to the Library of Congress and look up K.K. Campbell, page 82, and what you find he really said was, 'It was a nice day at Dachau.' They get away with this because they know goddamn well most people don't have time to rush off to the Library of Congress. But people read that and say to themselves, 'Who would lie about such a thing when it's so easy to prove them wrong? They must be telling the truth.'" -- Eye magazine (online Web-based magazine)

[Unorthadox]

I have tried my hardest to keep this thread normal but you are such an idiot that its impossible. I have openly and honestly questioned the holocaust and you have called me an "idiot", "narrow minded" a "bigot" you said the video is "propaganda" and that I should be ashamed for even questioning the holocaust. PATHETIC!

The video is NOT prperganda. It shows you a diffrent view of the holocaust, one which is not clouded by over exaggerated horror stories.

I suggest that you dont reply to this thread again because I have no time for pathetic people who cant keep there personal issues out of an adult conversation. I have decide to share with everyone a video that I found very interesting and already I've got the rats all over me.


hahaha Please tell me that was a joke.

You have no clue what so ever in what your talking about child. There are hardly any records left of the final solution, everyone claims that it was an order of word which is utterly ridiculous. The nazi's destroyed nearly all evidence as they were losing the war, which is why there is so much mistery surrounding the holocaust. As there is no good evidence everyone is going by the word and personal accounts of the alledged survivors, who have all been treated badly by the nazi's and who are all jewish. I suggest you watch the video before you post gain.

This video shows you a diffrent view point on the holocaust.

So for christs sake if you are going to post anything WATCH THE VIDEO before you embarrass yourself with an idiotic post.

Wrong. Yes the nazis destroyed much/most of everything, some nazi records still got loose, and evidence from them shows how detailed the nazis were. Also, not all prisoners were jewish, as the nazis also captured homosexuals, politicians of other european countries, ect. Evidence from thousands of eyewitness's of more then 1 race, its pretty easy to tell what happened.

[Aquatiq]

why are they trying to burn telephone books in a little hole to try to prove anything?

that wouldn't even be useful for proving that TELEPHONE BOOKS IN A LITTLE HOLE DIDN'T BURN BACK THEN since they're NOT THE SAME inch:

[Galleleo]

I bet that skit threw another hissyfit after my post about me being gay and stuff.

[Squeezer]

I'm not entering the Holocaust debate. Had the thing rammed down my throat for the 25 years of my existance. It was fucked up, but you know what? I'm tired of hearing about it. Hearing about human suffering and evil just isn't my cup of tea.

Now then, in reply to Squeezer, you'd be surprised what "superiors" would get away with in the old days. During the first world war soldiers were asked to get out of the trenches, and WALK to the other side. And they'd do this. Just because their officers said it would work.

Millions upon millions of people died over the two world wars due to the stupity of a few old men who played with lives like toy soldiers and the world like a game of Risk. Sadly, things havn't changed much today, and if they could get away with it many men in power would still act the same way today with anyone dumb enough to follow them.

No, Eisenhower was far from a non compassionate general. The same could be said about Rommel, and pretty much every general that wasn't Russian. World War I on the other hand was just a bunch of kings using men they believed to be expendable.

As far as anything Skitzo is posting is concerned, you have said that you're keeping an open opinion, yet I don't see what you're keeping an open opinion about? This is not a matter of opinion, the Holocaust happened. But, rather than learning a lesson from this catastrophic event, and perhaps championing for human rights, or doing something as small as being a better person, you choose to question an unquestionable matter. 8 Million people did not just disappear. The BBC did not fabricate a story to gain support for the war. So, stop perpetuating this "I just wanna view both sides of the matter" attitude, and accept that this shit happened. This is not a matter to question. Asking if the war was legit, or perhaps if today's wars are legit sounds great, but questioning if the holocaust happened is just being silly and insensative.

[Squeezer]

exaggerated horror stories

ps: i watched about half of your video before i got tired of watching drivel fall out of some poor guy's mouth who made his life work out of complete nonsense. of course, it's sadder to be the trisomic retard that falls for it, but that honor is yours and yours alone.

I just watched those videos, and am not at all ashamed to admit that I cried. And not just cried, I bawled. It's so disgusting what humans are capable of doing to each other. Fuck Skitzo's bullshit video, watch this and learn something instead.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Okay, so it took a while to watch everything, but Skitzo's video is some deranged shit. If you can look at that video in any light other than a severely slanted piece of propoganda, then congratulations my friend: you are severely thick-headed and might want to consider medication.

Not to pick it apart (because really, what is it beyond "badly edited and written"?), but here are just a few moments that I like to call "Holy Shit, I Can't Believe Anyone Would Take This Shit Seriously":

- When describing Auschwitz, the narrator explains about "fumigation rooms" (apparently the dress-up term of "gas chambers"), and "had the Germans not installed these massive fumigation units, the death toll in the camp could have gone into the hundreds of thousands." Direct quote. Evidently someone hasn't filled in Mr. Narrator about the three million plus people that died there. But what's a couple million and a half amongst friends, right?

- I loved the "Some Cremation Facts from an Expert" section. So we see a couple outside shots of a crematorium, then we're "introduced" to some guy who we're supposed to believe is an "expert" on cremation. I put "introduced" in quotes, because you're never actually told who he is. Not once. Why not share your name with the world, little fella? Is it because you're afraid that some people might question your logic? Or is it because you might not actually be the world's foremost cremation specialist? Hmmm...

- The telephone book burning was one of the weakest/funniest things I've ever seen as well. First, their "pyrotechnics expert" (the sheer number of "experts" in this film is almost as many as the occurences of mangling the english language, I shit you not) comes out in green camo (hahahah, WHAT??) and puts three telephone books in a small hole to simulate mass grave burnings at camps. Now, two things are important:
1) They admit that telephone books are dense and slow/hard to burn.
2) They admit that they don't have the same fuel used in the camps--they make up some concoction that they claim is comparable.
Okay, so they light the books on fire and guess what? They don't burn that well! Imagine that! You mean to tell me that a tightly-bound mass of cellulose won't burn that well? Well shucks! I guess I should've paid attention in AP Physics, shouldn't I? After burning for about 20 minutes, they call off the "experiment" with the weak-ass excuse of:
"We did not continue our efforts, because we figured our point had been made." (Direct quote, again)
Here's the deal--that's not what an experiment is, Maynard. You don't run an experiment with a prescribed outcome in mind, at very least. Again, this video proves laughable as hell.

- "Most deaths in concentration camps were caused, not by starvation nor maltreatment but by Typhoid." - Dr. John E. Gordon, Harvard Professor travelling near the front lines of the advancing Allied army
...or so they'd have you believe. The quote sounded a little slanted to me, so I went in search of Dr. Gordon. I searched the faculty alumni of Harvard, the Library of Congress, a general Google search and a LexisNexis search... guess what came up? About two other articles of "holocaust nonsense" websites (both containing different versions of the quote) and NOTHING else. No bio, no note of him ever being at Harvard, no nothing. You'd figure that this guy should've been a little more noteworthy, at least somewhere. But I guess that that's just the government trying to erase all record of him, right? Right.

- There's a still frame of a sign attached to barbed-wire near one of the barracks in one of the camps. The accompanying text reads:
"The sign says
CAREFUL
High Voltage
Danger to Life!

But if all Jews were to
be murdered...
Why warn them?"
Again, hilarious shit. I don't know, Copernicus, why WOULD they put up such a sign? I don't know... maybe to remind German guards who also worked there? Maybe? Man, all this thinking is making my brain hurt!

There's a lot of other stuff in that video that's just plain fucked. I can't believe I wasted 72 minutes of my life, but if it saves someone else that same amount of time, let me summarize it for you:
"Hello, we collect shoddy science and ridiculous hyperbole and package it in a video with the production quality of Mrs. Roberts special needs classroom. Oh, and we hate Jews."

[K2Grey]

1) To be in doubt on a matter is not the same as having an open mind. A person starts out, or should start out, by default, with an open mind, but when he accumulates evidence and opinions, he should gradually shift to having a definite position. To do otherwise is like saying "Oh, there are all these technological advancements nowadays, but I'm not sure if science really works or not. I'll keep an open mind and balance equally the idea that science works and the alternative that they work for the Devil."

2) Every position can be characterized as being between two extremes. The meaning of this is that there is no "golden mean" position. You should decide what view you have on any issue based on your own thoughts and decisions, perhaps using others to help you. You should never just look at the views of the two biggest opposing sides and then pick one in the middle because it's the compromise.

3) I haven't done research on the Holocaust, so I'm hesitant to immediately denounce anyone. Having said this, insofar as I know, there are innumerable Holocaust survivors and documentaries of the Holocaust out there. Any evidence that would sway me had better be of incredible nature, such as for example God appearing to me in broad daylight and proclaiming the Holocaust to be a hoax (in which case I would then seek psychiatric treatment). In addition I feel the majority of Holocaust denial media tends to be like the video that was linked and if ConcreteSchlyrd did not totally misrepresent the video, then it is full of shit.

BTW, Concrete, thanks for summarizing the video so I didn't have to watch it. I waste large quantities of time daily, but I don't mind saving 72 minutes.

[Galleleo]

I have been to the dutch concentration camp about 3/4 times, had tours and stuff there, saw videos and stuff.. but that was nothing compared to Bergen-Belsen where I also went, I think twice in total.. that stuff. Like 1 time we went on a school trip, and first we got to see a video, and then we had 2! survivors tell their stories, and that delivers.. I shed a tear or two there, without doubt. I have also been to museams and stuff..

I would say to skitzo, gtfo of England for a change and go visit some of those places. Myself, I like reading about the war, and visiting museams, and the graves in Normandie, and movies etc, so I have expierenced alot, and even having 0.1% doubt about it is just stupid and ignorant.

[genocidal]

You don't need 72 minutes to prove that the Holocaust was constructed by Steven Spielberg and Joe Lieberman.

[Zerzera]

- The telephone book burning was one of the weakest/funniest things I've ever seen as well.

Me and my sister once tried to melt coins in a pan, it didn't work.. my conclusion: you can't melt metal.

- There's a still frame of a sign attached to barbed-wire near one of the barracks in one of the camps.

Rofl today I walked past electric wire, and it had a sign too, COWS CAN'T EVEN READ THAT ROFL LOL LOL

[Squeezer]

Me and my sister once tried to melt coins in a pan, it didn't work.. my conclusion: you can't melt metal.



Rofl today I walked past electric wire, and it had a sign too, COWS CAN'T EVEN READ THAT ROFL LOL LOL

No.....but human beings thinking about perhaps hopping that fence can.

[froedrick]

No.....but human beings thinking about perhaps hopping that fence can.

I think he was making a joke

[SkiTzO]

No.....but human beings thinking about perhaps hopping that fence can.

LOL Squeezer you are sticking up for the video, good job man.

[froedrick]

you're gay.